[knox]

Oh yeah, deranged. Thanks for being useful.
But no, I meant it. Those things you say about Manson were really creepy, I kind of hoped it was a joke but since it wasn't I can't take anything you say on the subject seriously. Sorry.

[ann ashtray]

Originally Posted by knox

Oh yeah, deranged. Thanks for being useful.
But no, I meant it. Those things you say about Manson were really creepy, I kind of hoped it was a joke but since it wasn't I can't take anything you say on the subject seriously. Sorry.

What did I say? Even remember?

I remember YOU saying things that weren't true, and me shedding a little light on the subject...that's what I remember.

And you are creepy, just so ya know. A fucking nutcase that seems to feel she has the answers for the lives of everyone else.

[jon boy]

Originally Posted by ann ashtray

You see it that way, but we aren't the ones generally afraid of guns. Seems those that are afraid are the ones worried someone is out to get them.

i am talking about the way you feel the need to carry a gun because you think everyone else has one and could use it so you need to protect yourself. that should be obvious.

[_slavo_]

Here is the video of the gunman final moments, short before he commited suicide.

http://krimi.cas.sk/clanok/178526/mr...devinskej.html

click on the video that appears on the link site.

[ann ashtray]

Originally Posted by jon boy

i am talking about the way you feel the need to carry a gun because you think everyone else has one and could use it so you need to protect yourself. that should be obvious.

You'd be surprised how many of us have them just as a means of excercising our right to carry one. This is the only reason why I've ever considered getting one.

Others, just think collecting them is fun....kinda like artifacts. No different than others who choose to collect records or stamps. For better or worse, they are a valid part of history.

+ as far as those that choose to carry/own them for the reasons you speak of...it isn't ALWAYS out of fear, it's often (probably more than often...) out of the knowledge...the FACT...that sometimes the enemy MIGHT have one. SOunds like a pretty good excuse to own one to me.

[jon boy]

Originally Posted by ann ashtray

You'd be surprised how many of us have them just as a means of excercising our right to carry one. This is the only reason why I've ever considered getting one.

Others, just think collecting them is fun....kinda like artifacts. No different than others who choose to collect records or stamps. For better or worse, they are a valid part of history.

+ as far as those that choose to carry/own them for the reasons you speak of...it isn't ALWAYS out of fear, it's often (probably more than often...) out of the knowledge...the FACT...that sometimes the enemy MIGHT have one. SOunds like a pretty good excuse to own one to me.

sounds like they got you where they want you.

[ann ashtray]

To believe that is to say you believe the enemy likely doesn't have a gun and you shouldn't have a right to defend yourself.

And who is this "they" you speak of. Examples please.

[knox]

Originally Posted by ann ashtray

What did I say? Even remember?

I remember YOU saying things that weren't true, and me shedding a little light on the subject...that's what I remember.

And you are creepy, just so ya know. A fucking nutcase that seems to feel she has the answers for the lives of everyone else.

Yeah, I remember:"He had a good message to the world and there was more love in his family than in most families." Lol. I am creepy. You gotta be a total nutcase to want to take guns away from people and feel so strongly about it, right? Yeah, I'm insane.

[knox]

Originally Posted by ann ashtray

+ as far as those that choose to carry/own them for the reasons you speak of...it isn't ALWAYS out of fear, it's often (probably more than often...) out of the knowledge...the FACT...that sometimes the enemy MIGHT have one. SOunds like a pretty good excuse to own one to me.

lol.
sounds like something else to me.
"THE ENEMY"
hahah

[ann ashtray]

Originally Posted by knox

Yeah, I remember:"He had a good message to the world and there was more love in his family than in most families." Lol. I am creepy. You gotta be a total nutcase to want to take guns away from people and feel so strongly about it, right? Yeah, I'm insane.

He did, and does have a good message.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATWA

You should consider not trusting yr television so much.

[ann ashtray]

Originally Posted by knox

lol.
sounds like something else to me.
"THE ENEMY"
hahah

Yeah, the same one you prefer hiding in yr closet and calling the cops on.

[knox]

Are you trying to say he isn't a crazy sociopath?

[ann ashtray]

No crazier than anyone else...nope.

I'm not one of those that feels just because someone MIGHT have done a terrible thing (or even if they DID do one) that they are capable of no good. That's absurd.

[nicfit]

Originally Posted by ann ashtray

No crazier than anyone else...nope.

I'm not one of those that feels just because someone MIGHT have done a terrible thing (or even if they DID do one) that they are capable of no good. That's absurd.

So you'd never use a gun against one of your "enemies"?

sorry to jump in this randomly, I was just passing by and read a few posts here and there...

[ann ashtray]

I have no qualms about one killing someone else in self defense, nope. Most sane people don't.

[knox]

Originally Posted by ann ashtray

No crazier than anyone else...nope.

I'm not one of those that feels just because someone MIGHT have done a terrible thing (or even if they DID do one) that they are capable of no good. That's absurd.

Oh, right, yeah, well then.
If that's what you really think then it's kind of pointless to even try to take your opinions seriously on this subject. Sorry again, we'll try some other subject.

[ann ashtray]

Originally Posted by knox

Oh, right, yeah, well then.
If that's what you really think then it's kind of pointless to even try to take your opinions seriously on this subject. Sorry again, we'll try some other subject.

But you yourself have openly admitted to falling short of total mental health.

So full of contradictions.

You must remember Manson never killed anyone, not one person.

[knox]

Originally Posted by ann ashtray

Yeah, the same one you prefer hiding in yr closet and calling the cops on.

I would prefer that yes, but burglars walking into people's homes when they're in is far from being one of the most common types of crime.

[knox]

Originally Posted by ann ashtray

But you yourself have openly admitted to falling short of total mental health.

So full of contradictions.

The worst lunatic is the one who believes to be sane.

[ann ashtray]

Originally Posted by knox

I would prefer that yes, but burglars walking into people's homes when they're in is far from being one of the most common types of crime.

It's more common than murder.