[Sheriff Rhys Chatham]

Originally Posted by noisereductions

I disagree. If you dont like it, that's fine, but it deserves it's acclaim. It's an album that is applauded by hardcore hip hop heads, critics AND people who dnt even like rap music! That's no small feat. The last time I can remember a MAINSTREAM, major label rap album pulling that off to the same degree was Jay-Z's BLACK ALBUM. Know what I mean?

I don't dislike it, well only a little.
I don't know as soon as it came out a group of my friends bought it and it was on rotation at least three times a day. To me it just doesn't feel like a record I can spin too many times and not get bored with it.

[noisereductions]

Weird. I've played it A LOT since release day.

To each his own.

[Sheriff Rhys Chatham]

Guess so.
I prefer hip hop to rap any way.
Prob. why I don't dig it so much.

always took hip hop as the cooler less commercial more rough version of rap.

I think a known artists said something like "...I do hip hop not rap" regarding the money and rep he got

[greedrex]

what is the difference between hiphop and rap?

like I said above, thats how I understand it so far...

rap: commercialised bling bling
hip hop: the rough, street cred version.

before that i understand it that way:

hip hop: genre as a whole
rap: the vocals

[Toilet & Bowels]

Originally Posted by greedrex

hello dudes
i want to listen to some good hip hop that would be somehow akin to Cannibal Ox. I want my hip hop to be pretty threatening and serious.

Originally Posted by greedrex

protip: i love futuristic samples.

Public Enemy - Fear Of A Black Planet*

Company Flow - Funcrusher Plus
Monster Island Czars - Escape From Monster Island
Techno Animal - Brotherhood Of The Bomb

The Infesticons - Gunhill Road**
Mike Ladd - Welcome To The Afterfuture**
Kool Keith - Black Elvis-Lost In Space**
Anti-Pop Consortium - Tragic Epilogue**




*Not as futuristic as the other records I suggested but probably the most intense & serious sounding hiphop record ever made, also a big influence on the dense layered production of EL-P (did beats for Cannibal Ox & Company Flow)

** These aren't as threating or as serious (they aren't soft either though) but are definitely futuristic sounding

[SuchFriendsAreDangerous]

on my list:

Dr Dooom aka Kool Keith aka the Black Elvis aka Mr Nagacto
Tribe Called Quest
old school Outkast [like pre-2000]
the Black Knights
RZA
GZA
e-40
the makaveli bootlegs
the grouch and the living legends
zion-I
the gravediggaz
Deadprez
busta rhymes
the game
dj quick
KRS-One
scarface/geto boys
Slick Rick aka Rick the Ruler

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[SuchFriendsAreDangerous]

Originally Posted by greedrex

what is the difference between hiphop and rap?

hip hop can be artistic, rap is about the street, and if you get to artistic on the street, they kick yr ass, or to quote Lou Reed, "nah man they'll punch you out!"

[cryptowonderdruginvogue]

 

 

 

^^^that makes sense

edit: referring to spectraljulian

[cryptowonderdruginvogue]

 

 

 

[SuchFriendsAreDangerous]

Originally Posted by al shabbray

^^^that makes sense

edit: referring to spectraljulian

indeed. I have seen enough artistic motherfuckers get their ass kicked!

if you ask me, this is the single greatest album in Hip Hop

 

followed closely by:

 

and rounding up third:

 

[Toilet & Bowels]

Originally Posted by greedrex

what is the difference between hiphop and rap?

hiphop is the whole culture, graffiti, break dancing, DJs, rappers.
rap is talking in syncopated rhymes.
don't listen to people who say rap is the commercial stuff and hiphop is the underground stuff, or that one is one style of music and the other is something else.

[SuchFriendsAreDangerous]

Originally Posted by Toilet & Bowels

hiphop is the whole culture, graffiti, break dancing, DJs, rappers.
rap is talking in syncopated rhymes.
don't listen to people who say rap is the commercial stuff and hiphop is the underground stuff.

Rap is not entirely deprived of culture, just mostly.

Originally Posted by Toilet & Bowels

hiphop is the whole culture, graffiti, break dancing, DJs, rappers.
rap is talking in syncopated rhymes.
don't listen to people who say rap is the commercial stuff and hiphop is the underground stuff, or that one is one style of music and the other is something else.

i dont said that it IS like that. I just mentioned that Ive heard it that way. i dont care bout genres, dont wanted to offend

[Sheriff Rhys Chatham]

Originally Posted by greedrex

what is the difference between hiphop and rap?

It's hard for me to describe.
I see them as sounding different though, not only in lyrics but sound/music.

[batreleaser]

all those wu tang albums rank among my all time favorites. wu tang was the most listened to thing of mine when i was in high school because they were the one thing that everyone agreed on; the skaters, the hip hop dudes, the hippies, the punks, the metalheads. everyone loves them because theyre heavy, trippy, interesting, wierd, shit, theyre the best.

other great shit:
company flow-funcrusher plus
big l-livestyles ov da por and dangerous
gravediggaz-6 feet deep
lootpack-s/t
the bug-london zoo (one of the best of the year, trust me)
vast aire-deauces wild
gangstarr-full clip
geto boys-s/t (along with enter the 36 chambers, this is my favorite hip hop album, one of the most dangerous record ever)
erik b and rakim-paid in full
ultramagnetic mc's-everything
boogie down production-criminal minded


grime:
shabba ranks-rappin wit the ladies, golden touch, just reality, best baby father
roll deep-in the deep end, rules and regulations, return of the big money sound
wiley-treddin on thin ice, da 2nd phaze
trim-soulfood volume 3
riko-the truth
ghetto-2000 and life, ghetto gospel
lethal bizzle-agains all oddzz, back to bizznizz
the plastician-beg to differ

[batreleaser]

the only dizzee rascal album thats somewhat not too terrible is the first one, that guy is soooo overrated.