Thurston Moore is Dead - Page 4

diskaholic-anonymous · 02.17.2014, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Genteel Death

People who aren't Sonic Youth fans are way more dismissive and critical...

wrong. who are fan of S.Y it's more critical than anyone else cause whe know more musical elements of the band and of every member than anyone else...and we know about the talent of thurston and we know he's far away from this heavymental ( lost soul ? )

noisereductions · 02.17.2014, 07:26 PM

http://sonicyouth.com/gossip/showthr...hlight=eternal

Derek · 02.17.2014, 08:51 PM

Ah, so a bunch of "It's neat, not amazing" comments like I thought.

secretmonalisa · 02.18.2014, 06:42 AM

Sonic Youth will be reborn when Kim gets over the shock and finds new man.
Why did she so drastically divorce after years of tolerating the affair? Maybe because when the mistress has a baby the wife suspects it's her husband's even if it isn't

Eva had Julian Jorge Sept. 21, 2011. Kim announced divorce October, 2011.

MellySingsDoom · 02.18.2014, 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by secretmonalisa

Sonic Youth will be reborn when Kim gets over the shock and finds new man.
Why did she so drastically divorce after years of tolerating the affair? Maybe because when the mistress has a baby the wife suspects it's her husband's even if it isn't

Eva had Julian Jorge Sept. 21, 2011. Kim announced divorce October, 2011.

I think we can all forget an SY re-union for one lifetime. As for Kim and Thurston's private life, I really don't see any point in dragging out that old chestnut yet again - it's been done to death on here already, for starters, and anyway, it's strictly a private matter between them, and really is nobody else's business.

And Kim can find love wherever she wants, man or woman - and she certainly seems to be in no "shock" whatsoever, the last time I checked.

Diesel · 02.18.2014, 07:00 AM

Harmless-if-a-bit-bland song with shit video. Who watches music videos these days anyway? *wink wink

Insensitive thread title? Or board obsessed with death? or both?

secretmonalisa · 02.18.2014, 07:05 AM

I guess you're right. Sonic Youth revival is wishful thinking on my part. But I do think Kim was in shock, and that shock is what makes "Coming Apart" great. I don't think she minds us speculating on her private life. Listen to the song "Last Mistress"!!

Genteel Death · 02.18.2014, 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by diskaholic-anonymous

wrong. who are fan of S.Y it's more critical than anyone else cause whe know more musical elements of the band and of every member than anyone else...and we know about the talent of thurston and we know he's far away from this heavymental ( lost soul ? )

There are plenty of people out there with great taste in music, a knack for writing about it and who have listened to Sonic Youth and have never been impressed by their music for specific reasons. You should look around more.

Pookie · 02.18.2014, 03:00 PM

I think it's a pretty decent album opener but it's not single. And the video's rubbish.

diskaholic-anonymous · 02.18.2014, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Genteel Death

There are plenty of people out there with great taste in music, a knack for writing about it and who have listened to Sonic Youth and have never been impressed by their music for specific reasons. You should look around more.

the great taste in music it's just a great taste...don't explain why should i will be impressed with sonic youth...i could have a great taste in rock but that doesn't mean i will have impressed with them.

A Thousand Threads · 02.18.2014, 06:42 PM

bob casale is dead :-(

Toilet & Bowels · 02.18.2014, 07:15 PM

Hey, stay on topic

SuchFriendsAreDangerous · 02.18.2014, 08:50 PM

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I'm still not sure where Suchfriends got the story that Rather Ripped got a better reception on this forum than The Eternal. The search function is not the best but it brings up nicer words for The Eternal than it does for Rather Ripped.

I guess I'm mistaken but I also distinctly remember avoiding it for a short while because of negative feedback I was reading from people whose opinions I trusted.

!@#$%! · 02.18.2014, 10:22 PM

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I guess I'm mistaken

HOLY SHIT! IT'S HAPPENED!!

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but

no-- no buts!

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anyway-- at least in this here forum rr was widely panned and the eternal was better received, but (ha!) it wasn't really well received either. it wasn't like "oh, here be another masterpiece". mixed reviews is more like it.

personally, i was never a fan of the ibold era (if you could call it that). my last love was sonic nurse, though it wasn't huge (not huge like its contemporary murray st). i do miss the sad leprechaun, not sure why he left but i assumed he had ambitions of his own. like moving to tokyo.

anyway, time passes, shit happens, what can you do.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous · 02.18.2014, 10:37 PM

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HOLY SHIT! IT'S HAPPENED!!

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it wasn't really well received either.

Exactly.

bloodcrystallisetosand · 02.19.2014, 04:38 AM

RR got panned on here, though I have much love for it documented elsewhere on this 'ere board. The Eternal actually literally makes me sad in a way no other record does - such poor writing, such boring jamz, such sterile production. Demolished thoughts and Trees were both great records, shame thurston has tried to revert to some kind of pre-sy state and be a shouty punk teen since te split. I'm glad Lee got Steve in the (real) divorce. Thurston can still do the improv stuff, hopefully CLM and this 'era' are just blips and his songwriting will get better again.

Mortte Jousimo · 02.19.2014, 09:17 AM

Heavenmetal is the weakest song of CLM-album. I´m not very interesting about the videos, but to me that new vid seems like the videos of "Indie" today. Not bad, not really great. I don´t have no idea why Thurston made video from Heavenmetal instead for example Detonation. Maybe he thought HM had more commercial potential? I don´t think there is, Heavenmetal sounded to me already at first more of idea of song than a full song.

But anyway I don´t still have any reason to hate Thurston or SY. I still love all SY-albums (some more than the other) and think all the solo material is not as great as SY-material (Kim in Coming Apart, Lee in Glacial & Thurston in Moore/Connors-collaboration -albums are closest to SY). I think Thurston´s Psychic, Trees, Demolished & CLM are quite same level of goodness. I have to agree about many of here that Thurston´s greatness seem to be at the moment in improvisation more than songwriting.

About RR & Eternal, I think they both were hated here. Maybe RR a little more (when I started here it seemed you couldn´t like RR at all if you wanted to be seriusly taken SY-fan, I´m glad It has changed and now there are both RR & Eternal likers). I have noticed mostly same persons hate RR and like Eternal and also backwards.

Almost every artist who has a long career, started to do same song again & again. The thing is that some can do it interesting way. Thurston didn´t do it interesting way in Heavenmetal, but I think it´s ok song because it sounds really Thurston. If someone else did same kind of song, everybody would said you´ve copied Thurston. And I think every other song in CLM album are enough interesting to me. Like Chris, I think Heavenmetal works the best when it´s in that additional single.

Are you critical about the music, I think it´s nothing to do about are you a fan of SY. But I think the people here (and also elsewhere) who think they´re very critical about the music, don´t admit there´s a lot´s of other things as quality of music that influence about their opinions of music.

greedrex · 02.19.2014, 09:57 AM

Can someone here explain what Thurston is trying to do?
Has he dismantled CLM for good?
What's with the " Thurston Moore UK " new name?
What's with the idea of saying "this is a THUSTON MOORE song".
This is all weird no?

EVOLghost · 02.19.2014, 10:56 AM

^ And something bout not enough treble.

Chris Lawrence · 02.19.2014, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by greedrex

Can someone here explain what Thurston is trying to do?
Has he dismantled CLM for good?
What's with the " Thurston Moore UK " new name?
What's with the idea of saying "this is a THUSTON MOORE song".
This is all weird no?

I have zero insight beyond what's been posted in this thread, but it seems like Thurston may have permanently relocated to London, put together a new band (aka Thurston Moore UK), recorded some songs with them ("Detonation" etc), and is releasing a solo album comprised of these songs as well as Chelsea Light Moving leftovers. I say "leftovers" only because it seems like CLM may be on hiatus/finished due to the relocation. The video being released as Thurston Moore rather than CLM is what leads me to think this.

Could be wrong about everything, maybe CLM will remain his "North American touring band"?

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02.18.2014, 06:42 AM	#64
secretmonalisa empty page Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Kansas Posts: 20	Sonic Youth will be reborn when Kim gets over the shock and finds new man. Why did she so drastically divorce after years of tolerating the affair? Maybe because when the mistress has a baby the wife suspects it's her husband's even if it isn't Eva had Julian Jorge Sept. 21, 2011. Kim announced divorce October, 2011.
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02.18.2014, 07:00 AM	#66
Diesel the destroyed room Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 594	Harmless-if-a-bit-bland song with shit video. Who watches music videos these days anyway? *wink wink Insensitive thread title? Or board obsessed with death? or both?
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02.18.2014, 07:05 AM	#67
secretmonalisa empty page Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Kansas Posts: 20	I guess you're right. Sonic Youth revival is wishful thinking on my part. But I do think Kim was in shock, and that shock is what makes "Coming Apart" great. I don't think she minds us speculating on her private life. Listen to the song "Last Mistress"!!
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02.18.2014, 03:00 PM	#69
Pookie invito al cielo Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 9,877	I think it's a pretty decent album opener but it's not single. And the video's rubbish.
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A Thousand Threads expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 2,000	bob casale is dead :-(
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02.19.2014, 04:38 AM	#76
bloodcrystallisetosand bad moon rising Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Bristol, UK Posts: 121	RR got panned on here, though I have much love for it documented elsewhere on this 'ere board. The Eternal actually literally makes me sad in a way no other record does - such poor writing, such boring jamz, such sterile production. Demolished thoughts and Trees were both great records, shame thurston has tried to revert to some kind of pre-sy state and be a shouty punk teen since te split. I'm glad Lee got Steve in the (real) divorce. Thurston can still do the improv stuff, hopefully CLM and this 'era' are just blips and his songwriting will get better again.
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02.19.2014, 09:17 AM	#77
Mortte Jousimo expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 2,019	Heavenmetal is the weakest song of CLM-album. I´m not very interesting about the videos, but to me that new vid seems like the videos of "Indie" today. Not bad, not really great. I don´t have no idea why Thurston made video from Heavenmetal instead for example Detonation. Maybe he thought HM had more commercial potential? I don´t think there is, Heavenmetal sounded to me already at first more of idea of song than a full song. But anyway I don´t still have any reason to hate Thurston or SY. I still love all SY-albums (some more than the other) and think all the solo material is not as great as SY-material (Kim in Coming Apart, Lee in Glacial & Thurston in Moore/Connors-collaboration -albums are closest to SY). I think Thurston´s Psychic, Trees, Demolished & CLM are quite same level of goodness. I have to agree about many of here that Thurston´s greatness seem to be at the moment in improvisation more than songwriting. About RR & Eternal, I think they both were hated here. Maybe RR a little more (when I started here it seemed you couldn´t like RR at all if you wanted to be seriusly taken SY-fan, I´m glad It has changed and now there are both RR & Eternal likers). I have noticed mostly same persons hate RR and like Eternal and also backwards. Almost every artist who has a long career, started to do same song again & again. The thing is that some can do it interesting way. Thurston didn´t do it interesting way in Heavenmetal, but I think it´s ok song because it sounds really Thurston. If someone else did same kind of song, everybody would said you´ve copied Thurston. And I think every other song in CLM album are enough interesting to me. Like Chris, I think Heavenmetal works the best when it´s in that additional single. Are you critical about the music, I think it´s nothing to do about are you a fan of SY. But I think the people here (and also elsewhere) who think they´re very critical about the music, don´t admit there´s a lot´s of other things as quality of music that influence about their opinions of music.
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greedrex invito al cielo Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: in yr fotobukit Posts: 6,588	Can someone here explain what Thurston is trying to do? Has he dismantled CLM for good? What's with the " Thurston Moore UK " new name? What's with the idea of saying "this is a THUSTON MOORE song". This is all weird no? __________________ Greed Recordings bandcamp ~The Rex~, stalkin' yr shit since 2008.
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EVOLghost invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: cybatraz! Posts: 11,537	^ And something bout not enough treble.
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