Grunge - Thurston Moore/Michael Lavine - Page 4

DeadDiscoDildo · 10.15.2009, 02:02 PM

Nirvana was more pop punk than the Pixies, that makes no sense.

Who gives a fuck what Thurston says anyways haha. He supports Jemina Pearl for fuck sake, she isn't pop punk?

I get about as bored with Sonic Youth these days as I do the Pixies...

Oh, and unless it's some kind of big joke, how could you EVER talk shit about Frank Black's lyrics without talking shit about Kim Gordon's lyrics or even Thurston's for that matter...

Decayed Rhapsody · 10.15.2009, 11:42 PM

Let's just all agree that Thurston = now totally full of shit. This is merely a cash cow. At least Frank Black has attempted and at times successfully written really cool lyrics. Anyone ever read Thurston's "poetry?" Fuckin dreck.

DeadDiscoDildo · 10.16.2009, 12:10 AM

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i agree with most everything you say here....i mean, its all a matter of opinion.

im not a big BYOP fan. ms. pearl kinda gets on my nerves. but then again i dont like the pixies either (i personally feel as if they sound like a bunch of pussies compared to nirvana....bleach destroys everything they ever did).

just...you know, opinions.

Well yeah, but to me Pixies were not supposed to be heavy. To me Pixies are beautiful music done real ugly and dark with all of lifes quirks. I mean if u dont dig em anymore Im not trying to...sway...your opinion...

Bleach is def amazing.

But to call Pixies pop punk and back BYOP is so fucked up in my opinion.

After pixies split, u could tell Frank was going more typical/weird guitar shop rock, alot of riffs...it was ok...But he has written enough vivid and unique chord changes with sick melodies over them to make up for it.

Kim and Breeders are ok, Cannonball era is ok...to be honest nothing she's done since POD has beaten it...I could listen to "oh" 100000 times.

Pixies dont belong in the grunge thing....but they def do for indie rock...everyone has been rippin them off since...just as much as sonic youth...except those bands dont get popular. haha.

Either way, I take the pixies/vaselines/melodic influence of grunge over the other aspect, thats just my style, but I like both!

Music shouldnt be a 1 trick pony! IE why THE FALL is kickass

DeadDiscoDildo · 10.16.2009, 01:14 AM

Your welcome, I love most of these bands anyways. And sometimes I hate them at the same time. It IS all relative, to where you're at as an individual. It's something I think about often, as I am one of those fools who is pursuing both the art of it and a musical career...so lot's of deep thinking in the everlasting ongoing search to be genuine

DeadDiscoDildo · 10.16.2009, 01:16 AM

^^Yeah, we played a show with Awesome Color a few months ago, and they were fun and everything but I just didn't get it. Even though we are kind of poppy, there are so many elements thrown in so the result is like when mark e smith gets poppy or how kurt got poppy ya know? I failed to see art or creativity in awesome color, they were nice enough people, but I think we stole the show...people stuck around till 130 am just to watch us and dance and fall and slip and slide in gallons of beer spilling everywhere, we had people more rowdy than them and I would say we harness a different type of energy...it was odd...

DeadDiscoDildo · 10.16.2009, 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by DeadDiscoDildo

^^Yeah, we played a show with Awesome Color a few months ago, and they were fun and everything but I just didn't get it. Even though we are kind of poppy, there are so many elements thrown in so the result is like when mark e smith gets poppy or how kurt got poppy ya know? I failed to see art or creativity in awesome color, they were nice enough people, but I think we stole the show...people stuck around till 130 am just to watch us and dance and fall and slip and slide in gallons of beer spilling everywhere, we had people more rowdy than them and I would say we harness a different type of energy...it was odd...

EDIT: Basically what I mean is, we dont just rip off the stooges or one of our influences, we rip em all off, so in turn...we dont sound like any of them too much...

Jeremy · 10.16.2009, 04:26 AM

All good points.

Something interesting with a band like, say, Nirvana is how they were able to take huge influence from bands like the Wipers, the Pixies, Vaselines, etc, yet go in a different direction than what they did originally.

Another example is the influence of Sonic Youth: Polvo, Unwound, Blonde Redhead, and the Swirlies all are obviously influenced by SY, but do something different with it, yet you could compare the bands to each other even though they all sounds distinctly different. I think Sway said it best in his last post.

~Jeremy~

DeadDiscoDildo · 10.17.2009, 12:51 AM

I think me and Sway are on the same page, I just over complicate my wording...

DeadDiscoDildo · 10.17.2009, 12:52 AM

Hey kim, "whats it like to be the girl in a bannnnnnnnd"

BWuahahahaha

Jeremy · 10.17.2009, 02:02 AM

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Originally Posted by DeadDiscoDildo

I think me and Sway are on the same page, I just over complicate my wording...

Hah, I do the same thing. I always wonder if what I say makes any sense since it usually comes out weird.

~Jeremy~

RanaldoNecro · 11.24.2009, 10:58 PM

Anyone ever read Thurston's "poetry?" Fuckin dreck.

I read Thurston writing from Grunge today and was quite impressed. Stuff like that and the Odelay re-issue are well written, insightful and funny...

I might agree that he could be better at his poetry. But it is the spirit of his composition that is important. How he says it. Underneath his breath and with great anger. Aloof and persecuted.

10.15.2009, 02:02 PM	#61
DeadDiscoDildo invito al cielo Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 3,805	Nirvana was more pop punk than the Pixies, that makes no sense. Who gives a fuck what Thurston says anyways haha. He supports Jemina Pearl for fuck sake, she isn't pop punk? I get about as bored with Sonic Youth these days as I do the Pixies... Oh, and unless it's some kind of big joke, how could you EVER talk shit about Frank Black's lyrics without talking shit about Kim Gordon's lyrics or even Thurston's for that matter...
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10.15.2009, 11:42 PM	#62
Decayed Rhapsody the destroyed room Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 572	Let's just all agree that Thurston = now totally full of shit. This is merely a cash cow. At least Frank Black has attempted and at times successfully written really cool lyrics. Anyone ever read Thurston's "poetry?" Fuckin dreck.
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10.16.2009, 01:14 AM	#64
DeadDiscoDildo invito al cielo Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 3,805	Your welcome, I love most of these bands anyways. And sometimes I hate them at the same time. It IS all relative, to where you're at as an individual. It's something I think about often, as I am one of those fools who is pursuing both the art of it and a musical career...so lot's of deep thinking in the everlasting ongoing search to be genuine
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10.16.2009, 01:16 AM	#65
DeadDiscoDildo invito al cielo Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 3,805	^^Yeah, we played a show with Awesome Color a few months ago, and they were fun and everything but I just didn't get it. Even though we are kind of poppy, there are so many elements thrown in so the result is like when mark e smith gets poppy or how kurt got poppy ya know? I failed to see art or creativity in awesome color, they were nice enough people, but I think we stole the show...people stuck around till 130 am just to watch us and dance and fall and slip and slide in gallons of beer spilling everywhere, we had people more rowdy than them and I would say we harness a different type of energy...it was odd...
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10.16.2009, 04:26 AM	#67
Jeremy 100% Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: The Batcave Posts: 833	All good points. Something interesting with a band like, say, Nirvana is how they were able to take huge influence from bands like the Wipers, the Pixies, Vaselines, etc, yet go in a different direction than what they did originally. Another example is the influence of Sonic Youth: Polvo, Unwound, Blonde Redhead, and the Swirlies all are obviously influenced by SY, but do something different with it, yet you could compare the bands to each other even though they all sounds distinctly different. I think Sway said it best in his last post. ~Jeremy~ __________________
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10.17.2009, 12:51 AM	#68
DeadDiscoDildo invito al cielo Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 3,805	I think me and Sway are on the same page, I just over complicate my wording...
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10.17.2009, 12:52 AM	#69
DeadDiscoDildo invito al cielo Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 3,805	Hey kim, "whats it like to be the girl in a bannnnnnnnd" BWuahahahaha
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11.24.2009, 10:58 PM	#71
RanaldoNecro expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Eye Of The Squirrel Posts: 1,481	Anyone ever read Thurston's "poetry?" Fuckin dreck. I read Thurston writing from Grunge today and was quite impressed. Stuff like that and the Odelay re-issue are well written, insightful and funny... I might agree that he could be better at his poetry. But it is the spirit of his composition that is important. How he says it. Underneath his breath and with great anger. Aloof and persecuted. __________________ He is not Alone
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