Albums that would have benefited from being less produced - Page 4

gmku · 04.23.2008, 03:32 PM

Ever hear the Beware of Abkco boot? Mostly All Things Must Pass demos, or very un-produced versions of those songs. Terrible! Somebody gave me a CDR copy thinking I'd appreciate the Spector-less production but it only proved to me how good ATMP is because of the production.

SpectralJulianIsNotDead · 04.23.2008, 03:54 PM

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Not if you're talking about Dark Side Of The Moon.
That is the point after which Pink Floyd are dead to me.

I love that album, but their music does go south after that album.

viewtiful_alan · 04.23.2008, 04:56 PM

Some people will argue that the album is a dud either way, but Bob Dylan's Empire Burlesque gets the nod for me. There are some great songs on there that could have come out better without the awful eighties production : /

terminal pharmacy · 04.23.2008, 06:03 PM

if by less produced you mean not produced or recorded at all then the list is far far to big.......

but moster magnet dope to infinity i think is a bit overly done

NWRA · 04.23.2008, 06:13 PM

Generation Terrorists by Manic Street Preachers. Too glossy and 'big'-sounding.

Onani Nic · 04.23.2008, 06:13 PM

First one that came to mind was The Replacements - Tim. Although I still love it.

Husker Du - Warehouse....
Cheap Trick - In Color
Saint Vitus - Born Too Late (Maybe it just suffers from bad production? still rules though)
Ramones - Road To Ruin (Mainly "She's the One" which could have been one of the best Ramones songs if it had the energy and sound of the first album)
Dirtbombs latest one...

HECKLER SPRAY · 04.23.2008, 06:19 PM

Well... Sorry, but... MURRAY STREET is overproduced in my opinion.

atsonicpark · 04.23.2008, 09:34 PM

Really? I don't think it's a particularly great sounding album, but I wouldn't say it's overproduced. Not any more so than Dirty with its glossy guitars and drum samples (!)...

viewtiful_alan · 04.23.2008, 09:41 PM

The Ramones 80's catalog.
Great songs kept on poking their heads up on those albums only to be pushed back down by crap production.

atsonicpark · 04.23.2008, 09:46 PM

This thread's not about "production you don't like", it's about "Albums that are overproduced."

I guess it's kind of turned into "production you don't like" though.

SonicBebs · 04.24.2008, 03:21 AM

where's the drum sample in Dirty?

HECKLER SPRAY · 04.24.2008, 04:06 AM

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Originally Posted by atsonicpark

Really? I don't think it's a particularly great sounding album, but I wouldn't say it's overproduced. Not any more so than Dirty with its glossy guitars and drum samples (!)...

Yeah, really. Not the whole album, but I find the guitars too "clean" on the first half, and I don't like the way Thurston's voice is recorded. I don't know why, but it doesn't sound very well in my opinion.
You're eight, this thread is becoming a " production you don't like" thread. Sorry, I plaid guilty.

Florya · 04.24.2008, 06:11 AM

I can think of a few albums that would have benefited us by not being produced at all.
Everything by Barry Manilow for example.

Imagine how much better the world would seem if Barry Manilow's records had never been produced.

atsonicpark · 04.24.2008, 09:36 AM

Read any article on "Dirty"; the one on here on the mustang site or the wikipedia article, and it mentions that drum samples were added in addition to Steve's playing to give the drums more "oomph".

SonicBebs · 04.24.2008, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by atsonicpark

Read any article on "Dirty"; the one on here on the mustang site or the wikipedia article, and it mentions that drum samples were added in addition to Steve's playing to give the drums more "oomph".

wow, never knew that. Never thought Steve would need any help either, still Vigg has sold lots of records so he must know best eh? (no)

gmku · 04.24.2008, 11:43 AM

Hmm. I like the production on Dirty. Again, it seems appropriate for the material. I think Vigg's production was perfect for some of that post-grunge stuff from that era.

Rob Instigator · 04.24.2008, 11:58 AM

wikipedia has nothing about any "samples" on the drums at all, on Dirty.

the mustang saite quotes steve.

I wonder which songs?

HECKLER SPRAY · 04.24.2008, 01:37 PM

I'd say 100% and Drunken Butterfly.
but it's just speculations.

viewtiful_alan · 04.24.2008, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by atsonicpark

This thread's not about "production you don't like", it's about "Albums that are overproduced."

I guess it's kind of turned into "production you don't like" though.

Those Ramones albums were overproduced and poorly at that.

atsonicpark · 04.24.2008, 05:26 PM

Oh duh at me, like the Phil Spector Ramones shit... I guess I misread what you wrote!

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gmku invito al cielo Join Date: May 2006 Location: Oxford, England Posts: 15,225	Ever hear the Beware of Abkco boot? Mostly All Things Must Pass demos, or very un-produced versions of those songs. Terrible! Somebody gave me a CDR copy thinking I'd appreciate the Spector-less production but it only proved to me how good ATMP is because of the production. __________________ Ever notice how this place just basically, well, sucks.
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viewtiful_alan invito al cielo Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Houston Texas Posts: 2,663	Some people will argue that the album is a dud either way, but Bob Dylan's Empire Burlesque gets the nod for me. There are some great songs on there that could have come out better without the awful eighties production : /
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terminal pharmacy invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Australia Posts: 3,358	if by less produced you mean not produced or recorded at all then the list is far far to big....... but moster magnet dope to infinity i think is a bit overly done
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NWRA children of satan Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Leeds Posts: 367	Generation Terrorists by Manic Street Preachers. Too glossy and 'big'-sounding.
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04.23.2008, 06:13 PM	#66
Onani Nic the end of the ugly Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 930	First one that came to mind was The Replacements - Tim. Although I still love it. Husker Du - Warehouse.... Cheap Trick - In Color Saint Vitus - Born Too Late (Maybe it just suffers from bad production? still rules though) Ramones - Road To Ruin (Mainly "She's the One" which could have been one of the best Ramones songs if it had the energy and sound of the first album) Dirtbombs latest one... __________________ I don't give a fuck thats the problem. I see a motherfuckin cop i don't dodge them.
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HECKLER SPRAY invito al cielo Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Near Paris, France Posts: 3,762	Well... Sorry, but... MURRAY STREET is overproduced in my opinion. __________________
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atsonicpark invito al cielo Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 28,843	Really? I don't think it's a particularly great sounding album, but I wouldn't say it's overproduced. Not any more so than Dirty with its glossy guitars and drum samples (!)... __________________
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viewtiful_alan invito al cielo Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Houston Texas Posts: 2,663	The Ramones 80's catalog. Great songs kept on poking their heads up on those albums only to be pushed back down by crap production.
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atsonicpark invito al cielo Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 28,843	This thread's not about "production you don't like", it's about "Albums that are overproduced." I guess it's kind of turned into "production you don't like" though. __________________
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04.24.2008, 03:21 AM	#71
SonicBebs expwy. to yr skull Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1,680	where's the drum sample in Dirty?
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Florya expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: a little world, all of my own. Posts: 1,668	I can think of a few albums that would have benefited us by not being produced at all. Everything by Barry Manilow for example. Imagine how much better the world would seem if Barry Manilow's records had never been produced. __________________ it takes an old guy like bloodbeach'85 to get anything right - atari 2600 listening mirror @ Soundcloud http://soundcloud.com/listening-mirror
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04.24.2008, 09:36 AM	#74
atsonicpark invito al cielo Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 28,843	Read any article on "Dirty"; the one on here on the mustang site or the wikipedia article, and it mentions that drum samples were added in addition to Steve's playing to give the drums more "oomph". __________________
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04.24.2008, 11:43 AM	#76
gmku invito al cielo Join Date: May 2006 Location: Oxford, England Posts: 15,225	Hmm. I like the production on Dirty. Again, it seems appropriate for the material. I think Vigg's production was perfect for some of that post-grunge stuff from that era. __________________ Ever notice how this place just basically, well, sucks.
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Rob Instigator invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: In the land of the Instigator Posts: 27,976	wikipedia has nothing about any "samples" on the drums at all, on Dirty. the mustang saite quotes steve. I wonder which songs? __________________ RXTT's Intellectual Journey - my new blog where I talk about all the books I read.
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HECKLER SPRAY invito al cielo Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Near Paris, France Posts: 3,762	I'd say 100% and Drunken Butterfly. but it's just speculations. __________________
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atsonicpark invito al cielo Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 28,843	Oh duh at me, like the Phil Spector Ramones shit... I guess I misread what you wrote! __________________
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