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I'd forgotten how bad Trump is in these kinds of situations. But I was quickly reminded how, as terrible as he was overall in those debates with Hillary, where, even as I became increasingly unsympathetic towards her, his only real stand out moment (albeit a massive one) was his, "because you'd be in jail" line. There was nothing as perfectly timed or delivered as that last night. But more than that, I thinkTrump's real problem is that while people may question lots of things about Biden, they don't instinctively dislike him the way so many did when it came to Hillary. I actually thought Biden did really well last night: keeping his head and never succumbing to the gaffes many expected (hopefully from Trump's side, fearfully on the side of the Dems). He was the level-headed centrist throughout and definitely forced Trump to go on the defensive. While I suspect that neither would have converted anyone already set on their support for one or the other I'd definitely give this round to Biden. Trump's strongest moment IMO was where he called out antifa, but that isn't something I'd see Biden as being synonymous with. His blows there would've landed far harder had they been aimed at someone like AOC or Ilhanan Omar but nobody realistically equates Biden (or Kamala Harris for that matter) with any kind of far Left stormtrooper organisation. This even made Trump's attack on Biden's position on law and order (who history tells us is far from 'progressive') fall flat, especially with Biden himself killing it outright with his support of it and denunciation of the whole 'defund the police' thing. In the end, his best line of attack from Trump was that Biden simply hadn't achieved much during all his years in politics. True, maybe .... maybe ... but hardly a mic drop. I want Trump to win but I think Biden may, in spite of my early thoughts, be his absolutely worst kind of opponent. Not because I think he's an especially strong candidate but, on the contrary, because he's actually such a mediocre one who forces the spotlight onto Trump and his evident weaknesses. Trump would've been far more affective against a more divisive figure like Kamala Harris, but Biden, at worst, just seems like the slightly embarassing grandad who you send to bed before they really start to get out of hand. And we all have a soft for those, even when they're serving as a distraction from something far worse. |
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Mate...
Actually doubly glad Everton are beating West Ham right now.
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3-1! i'm a new fan lmao |
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Unless I'm missing a very weak attempt at sarcasm, this post needs to go. Disgusting horseshit is not a "differing opinion".
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Opinion piece by Tom Friedman in The New York Times: Quote:
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Really? Have you not watched the fuckin' news over the past five years, Chris? What a mook.
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admit Hillary's book is fucking creepy, at the very least |
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So no sarcasm. Oh, Hillary is creepy? Go post pictures of female genitalia on Parler and get the hell out of here forever, dickhead. ![]()
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Two questions: where, and why?
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You're starting to sound like some kind of cult member. You obviously hate Trump but getting triggered like this when someone hints at weird goings on within the Washington elite makes no sense to me. In a choice between Stalin and Hitler I'd probably go Stalin. I wouldn't deny the existence of gulags though. |
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Almost like...qanon? Given that there's been zero solid evidence of "weird goings on" I'll err on the side of caution.
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Rrriiiight, that's what's in front of us, a choice between Hitler and Stalin... "Weird goings on"... Christ on a stick, this place it's a bottomless pit sometimes.
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it’s sad to see old friends seduced by fascists. god fucking damn...
what am i doing on this board i almost don’t know anymore... |
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We're here because of Sonic Youth, a band that was, among many other great things, left-leaning and anti-fascist. What the fuck are THEY doing here.
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And what the fuck has been done to them? It never ceases to baffle me how someone who enjoys the music of a band that so obviously wears their collective hearts on their sleeves can turn into the followers of such vile demagogues. Just as much as it baffles me how "Women For Trump" is a thing. Is it compartmentalization? Only caring about the sound and not the messages behind it? I mean, some are undoubtedly only here to troll and it stopped being about proper discourse amongst fans of a certain band a long time ago. With others, I'm not so sure this is their sole MO. But it is confounding to say the least. |
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I’m guessing those that troll probably have multiple accounts??? Funny thing Antagon, I’m far less concerned with who you or anyone else here at SYG has voted for than I am with how you (SYG members) treat the people that vote differently than you. Compartmentalization works both ways! How can you and other SYG members continue to listen to “music with a message,” yet sit idly by, never calling anyone out for cussing and harassing a few who have a differing vote or opinion than you? Keep fighting the good fight, Antagon! |
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e.g., i used to think beauregard was just nice guy who maybe was a bit simple in his conceptualizations, but nope... there's a malicious core underneath his smarmy pretense. |
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I certainly don't take him for someone just here to troll. I do believe he's in some way trying to get confused/uncertain people on his side. I've been seeing a few more voices in support of, or at least not completely averse to Trump on that board as of late. While I don't think there's one factor that's the cause of that (each person has their own story to tell and most of us live in completely different parts of the world), there's no denying that if you continually take part in an enduring discourse, you certainly influence that discourse in one way or another. He has that pretense of a polite, humble participant in a broader conversation that is marked by sheer "differences of opinion", whilst circulating harmful/untrue conspiracy theories and dog-whistles. And I think it's important to see through that veneer. Completely with ya on that. |
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