[!@#$%!]

Originally Posted by Skuj

I suppose after 4 years of this, we can now ask: Is America Great Again?

democrats got the executive and the whole congress so it's a start

[tw2113]

Originally Posted by Skuj

I suppose after 4 years of this, we can now ask: Is America Great Again?

TBD

[The Soup Nazi]

Originally Posted by Skuj

I suppose after 4 years of this, we can now ask: Is America Great Again?

Originally Posted by tw2113

TBD

Are you guys talking about the same thing? After four years of that fucking asshole OF COURSE things are not great, they're not even good, they're completely worse and the country's in the shitter. Now, if you're answering to, "OK, now that we elected Biden...", there's all kinds of potential for improvement, especially with a majority in Congress (razor-thin, but still), and that's not being naive - it's just that the baseline is so unbelievably low.

[tw2113]

Originally Posted by The Soup Nazi

Are you guys talking about the same thing? After four years of that fucking asshole OF COURSE things are not great, they're not even good, they're completely worse and the country's in the shitter. Now, if you're answering to, "OK, now that we elected Biden...", there's all kinds of potential for improvement, especially with a majority in Congress (razor-thin, but still), and that's not being naive - it's just that the baseline is so unbelievably low.

It's well assumed that any upwards movement will be a win, but at the same time, you really never know. I assume some movement up will definitely occur overall.

[Skuj]

Yeah, I kinda knew the answer to that question.

[!@#$%!]

so no reactions to that cherry shake?

ffs people. are you dead inside?

[tw2113]

Originally Posted by !@#$%!

so no reactions to that cherry shake?

ffs people. are you dead inside?

yes, after the Trump administration, we are thoroughly dead inside. Give us time to resurrect.

[tw2113]

Originally Posted by Skuj

Yeah, I kinda knew the answer to that question.

To be fair, it would be far from the first extremely loud minority that I've heard.

[!@#$%!]

Originally Posted by tw2113

yes, after the Trump administration, we are thoroughly dead inside. Give us time to resurrect.

increasing voltage to 400...

clear!

 

im in a very optimistic mood right now. noise aside, the speeding up of the vaccinations is starting to become visible in my area. yes, shit will happen as it often does, but more vaccination is great not just for public health but for the economy.

the impending stimulus is also good, and i agree that not everyone needs it but people need to stay alive till the economy picks up again.

i'm also bullish on future outcomes of the infrastructure plan. we sure need a fucking upgrade from the eisenhower era, and putting people to work should be a much better stimulus than quantitative easing, plus yield economic dividends for generations

and didn't you see fauci free at last? that's gotta be worth something.

there's a difference between skepticism and cynicism. one thing is to not be sure future outcomes; another is to deny the validity of present developments. yes it is better already and by far. pandemic management by science not tantrum? yes please.

[_tunic_]

Originally Posted by Skuj

I suppose after 4 years of this, we can now ask: Is America Great Again?

You should look at it from a wider perspective. Unfortunately the world outside of America has been inspired or infected by Trumpism as well, such as:
- uprise of politicians or political parties in other countries, such as Thierry Baudet in Netherlands. Or Pegida, that started in Germany but is spreading over Europe
- disbelief in press
- disbelief in politics
- disbelief in police

[choc e-Claire]

Originally Posted by _tunic_

- disbelief in police

yeah, uh...I don't think that can be pinned on Trump