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typical low grade post, brimming with resentment and ignorance...embarrassing to witness 
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the nerve, the unmitigated gall of this asshole - atari2600 i consider you dumb, ignorant, and irrelevant perhaps more than a fly, but less than a fart. a joke - !@#$%! Death by a firing squard of ten black gay men would be too good for this shithead. - atari2600 loser retard. pothead - !@#$%! you're a real prick for acting so daft & being so disagreeable on purpose - atari2600 On the contrary, tesla69 is idiota numero uno - atari2600 |
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12.26.2007, 03:20 PM
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12.26.2007, 04:00 PM
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well those of you who aren't going to "lie"... at least be courteous and tell your children to not ruin it for those who do "believe in the lie".
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12.26.2007, 04:08 PM
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why bother with santa? my kids will go after his judeochristianislamic boss. |
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12.26.2007, 04:46 PM
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I don't see the point of griefing people about their beliefs.
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12.26.2007, 04:58 PM
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what i see more going on this thread (not you though) is that people are getting shit for not sharing on the compulsory beliefs on the mainstream herd. the herd feels threatened. |
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12.26.2007, 05:08 PM
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Krampus is way cooler than Santa.
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12.26.2007, 05:25 PM
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abridged version of the text at
http://www.souledout.org/christmas/s...anicholas.html Most people know that our Santa Claus today originated from St. Nicholas, but the derivation of the Santa Claus story comes from many sources. In fact, since the Catholic church in 1969 demoted St. Nicholas from his official saintly status—as there were no records of his having been canonized—the original legend of this third century Turkish bishop is not very widely recognized as part of our Christmas celebration. Just one of many stories demonstrating his holy reputation is about an angel who appeared to the cardinal appointing a new bishop for the Turkish town of Mira, with a face bright like the sun, who told the cardinal to ordain the 30-year old Nicholas. Through his priesthood in the early Christian faith, even while alive he came to be recognized for his generosity to all those in trouble. In his good-doing role as priest, one story tells of Nicholas, who took pity on a girl in his parish whose family had no dowry. Had Nicholas not intervened, this would have prevented her from marrying. He made a parcel of money from his family's coffers and donated it anonymously to the young woman and her future by throwing it in through the open window, where it is said to have landed in her stocking. This type of event occurred more than once, and Nicholas became known for late night gifts, and the granting of wishes. Once the story of his deeds spread, he became widely known for helping those in trouble: lawyers and their clients, pawnbrokers, and sailors, as he was invoked to calm turbulent seas. And he became the patron saint of children. From his tomb, a viscous myrrh-like material oozed and was used by pilgrims as an ointment, to heal sickness. By 1082, his body was removed from where it was initially interred in Turkey, and moved to Bari, Italy by grave robbing sailors, and a cathedral was built there in his name. For centuries there were more churches in the middle ages named after him than all the apostles, and next to Christ and the Virgin Mary, St. Nicholas was the next most popular figure in Christianity. In a French village during the 12th century, local nuns honored their patron on December 6, which became St. Nicholas Day. The nuns delivered candy to all the children who'd been good, leaving it for them in their shoes, and leaving switches in those of the naughtier children. Because they seemed to cover so much territory, some began to say it was St. Nicholas himself who delivered the gifts. By medieval times Nicholas had become the most beloved patron saint of Europe, and through the middle ages, the story of Christmas in Europe developed to combine religious and pagan myths. German culture told of the ancient god Voden, the mystical sky rider who would pass judgment over villages to determine who did well, and who did not. In the 16th century reformation, Martin Luther's strong Protestant church banned St. Nicholas, denouncing his popularity as a saint because it rivaled the worship of Jesus.
When Luther created the Protestant church, he realized it would be necessary to wean German children off of St. Nick, so he created Krist Kindle, the winged Christ cherub, who also flew and brought gifts to good children—but which instead focused the celebration around Christ. He came on Christmas Eve at Christ's birthday, which more closely coincides with the Winter Solstice, around which pagan religion celebrated the return of the Sun's light.
In England the myth developed around Father Christmas, and in France, Pere Noël. Italy's old hag Bafana, out looking for the Christ child, left gifts in her wake for other kids. The gnome Tompten was Sweden's figure, and in the U.S., Martin Luther's Krist Kindle became Kris Kringle.
It was Dutch sailors who came to the New World and would not give up St. Nicholas as their patron; when they settled, particularly around the New York area, their nickname Santer Klause became the name we know as Santa Claus. In early colonial times around the American Revolution, the new American culture embraced most all that was not British, and so took on the Dutch Christmas celebration honoring their beloved St. Nick. Washington Irving gave the Dutch culture prominence in his "Knickerbocker Tales," which he wrote for the New York newspaper press. He mentions St. Nicholas over two dozen times in his chronicle, and it is from these writings that the original story "A Visit from St. Nicholas," better known as "'The Night Before Christmas," was conceived. The poem came to Clement Clark one night before Christmas when he was riding in a horse and carriage through the snowy streets of New York City, and so went home and wrote it for his children.
St. Nick came to be depicted as a jolly man in the more familiar red suit and white beard, and Harper's Weekly publisher Thomas Nast printed drawings that brought these images to the public. By this time, St. Nicholas' bishop's staff had become the more pagan candy cane. Other popular writers in the 1800s also published variations of the Santa Claus story, and by the 1890s, the first department store santas had emerged. By the 20th century, Santa Claus was here to stay!
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ive just read the first page of the thread and its easy to know none of ye have kidz and none of you understand kidz. to all who say im gonna tell my kidz fr4om day one there is no santa, to you i say go fuck yerself and stop lying to yerself and pretending to be uber cool. you are full of bullshit and ignorance flows freely.....
let the kidz have their dream, let the kidz have their wonderful magic that us adults will all too quickly suck from them. let kidz be kidz and let them grow naturally! bollocks to all you anti santa brigade, you are just not any fun! |
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12.27.2007, 07:16 AM
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12.27.2007, 07:30 AM
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Yeah, I am totally with Pauly on this. You might not believe in Santa yourself, but it is fun for the kids and there is nothing wrong with that. Cheer the fuck up or get some kids of your own or nephews/nieces.
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who sez that santa is the only way to have fun? do we have to hand over our imagination to some fucked up institution?
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12.27.2007, 04:42 PM
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science, economics and no santa...just what every 5 year old wants, lol
all this is a moot point anyhow with !@#$%, the day he can find a woman who will put up with his insane "anti establishment" theories and half truths enough to bear his kids, will never come... he knows it and we know it.....i love how !@#$ says he enjoyed beleiving in santa as a kid, but isnt gonna let his kids do the same, just to live out his own "anti mainstream" beliefs.....you are no better than the strict catholic parent who wont let thier kids think and figure out things on thier own...trying to brainwash them with your beliefs is a sure fire way to many therapy sessions for your kid, and also your relationship with said kid wil never be true again, you know it and i know it...what are you gonna do? tell your kid to beleive the opposite of anything popular, then whine about it on an online message board? just for indie cred and ur own sick twisted satisfaction? thank god for people like me hehe
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the nerve, the unmitigated gall of this asshole - atari2600 i consider you dumb, ignorant, and irrelevant perhaps more than a fly, but less than a fart. a joke - !@#$%! Death by a firing squard of ten black gay men would be too good for this shithead. - atari2600 loser retard. pothead - !@#$%! you're a real prick for acting so daft & being so disagreeable on purpose - atari2600 On the contrary, tesla69 is idiota numero uno - atari2600 |
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12.27.2007, 04:49 PM
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Are you going to at least tell them that the letter "z" is a lousy pluralizer? |
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"He called a little child and had him stand among them. And he said: 'I tell you the truth, unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven. Therefore, whoever humbles himself like this child is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven.'"
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the last thing i would want for my kids is to grow up to be ignorant dumb cows like you please give me more tips on raising children, so i can do the exact opposite |
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12.27.2007, 06:08 PM
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heres a good rule of thumb for you !@#$%...whatever you think is a good idea....tell your kids the opposite, it will make them better people in the long run  
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the nerve, the unmitigated gall of this asshole - atari2600 i consider you dumb, ignorant, and irrelevant perhaps more than a fly, but less than a fart. a joke - !@#$%! Death by a firing squard of ten black gay men would be too good for this shithead. - atari2600 loser retard. pothead - !@#$%! you're a real prick for acting so daft & being so disagreeable on purpose - atari2600 On the contrary, tesla69 is idiota numero uno - atari2600 |
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I agree with you that parents probably shouldn't tell their kids there is no Santa Claus. If one tells their children that there is no Santa Claus too early, they pass on a certain cognitive conceit. This could alter their personality and behavior and find the children becoming antisocial know-it-alls at best, or antisocial bullies in the worst case. I think it's the sort of thing that kids usually figure out for themselves when the time comes. And when that occassion eventually arises, parents should try to communicate with their children about the historical origin of Santa Claus in Saint Nicholas. Again, if I had children that asked me outright, I would tell them the truth but let them know that the myth and story of Santa Claus also has cultural value. If another person's kid asked me, I would tell them to please ask their parents or inform their parents about what was inquired.
Although I agree with you on this basic point, a point which is the actual topic subject of this particular thread, I do feel that you're taking some transparent cheap shots at !@#$%! in that last post which make you appear foolish and petulant. Anyway, writing this is against my better judgement because I'm sure I'm making myself out to be a target once again. And !@#$%! has been sort of an asshole punk to me for a good while now. What's also reckless are the quotes in your signature. Some of the newer people may not know that you garnered those vitriolic quotations in threads where you were pig-headedly insisted that Bush is above reproach as the greatest president ever, and maintained that you agree with all of the policies of the Bush administration, regarding the measures of Homeland Security and the Iraq War as both necessary and visionary. And naturally, such an ignorant viewpoint from a wholly brainwashed perspective expressed by yourself inspired some ire. And the outrage manifested itself in the quotes. Provided you are not a complete moron, you know as much yourself, but apparently you can't be bothered with any sort of human decency. So, you proudly display the quotations completely out of context. And some of the quotes are even from the old Sonic Youth message board. If I had obsessively kept tabs on all the daft and impulsive things you have written over the years, there would be a lot more material than just a few hotheaded quotes. |
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hook, line and sinker...i land the queen again...haha...i like to hear you and !@#$% arent getting along either...ill take credit for that too.. yeah, i love my sigs too, thanks for noticing weeeeeeee  
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