[choc e-Claire]

Originally Posted by Peterpuff

Well, it is his choice, but the more entertaining option would be to share it here, obviously!!

His?

But yeah, let's see what you think Symbols

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her

ok, it's kinda easy actually

you are you, your "ego". what you think you are

the city is also you, but *everything* you are. "i contain multitudes" iike walt whitman. in jungian parlance, the unconscious.

and guess what surprise, teenager. there is a new part of the city that's being built. no shit! you're growing up.

so i don't know where this bus is going, and maybe you don't either, but dream logic has to assume: from the old city to the new part.

and so here comes the bus which has-- guess what?-- a bunch of people, your age, also going to the same place.

now please understand these people are not "those people" really. they are parts of you. also moving, from childhood into new jack city.

also, remember, teenage grownup is all about developing personal autonomy and the social. so it's only logical (dream logic) that you'll be with "friends" your age. ¿sí?

so there you go, on the bus, and they're all smoking. you already identified here growing up with smoking, yes? we all told you "just say no" but fact is, marketers have always sold smoking as "the grownup thing to do"/

but let's not obsess with smokes.

basically you see embarking on this journey as getting soiled/contaminated in some way. and true enough, growing up is a filthy business haa haaa haaa.

so your pals are smoking, feeling grownup. but you don't want that! you wanna stay pure. or puer. or puella.

so, no matter how much you try to avoid growing up, you still get touched by the pollution, yes? but oh surprise, it doesn't really burn-burn, it just feels warm. it wasn't as horrible as you were thinking.

but instead of saying "ok, this wasn't so terrible" you decide to protest! which is to say: i do not want to go to new jack city! (it's a 90s movie title, word play on my part.)

and what happens when we don't wanna grow up?

we end up at our parents house. ooops! where it's safe. back to the womb.

but guess what? surprise! all those people show up with you. you can run, but you can't hide. the tide is rising from within. this is not something that your ego can choose.

you have to make friends, move out of the parents house psychologically, and build the new part of the city. yes?

except, maybe find a different grownup thing to do than smoking haa ha haaaaa. i say this from the awake logical part of it outside the dream. but yeah, growing up is a bit of pollution from the purity of childhood.

making money for example. filthy lucre. and mmmm, feels warm to have those $122 in your hand, doesn't it? it doesn't burn lol

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ps my name is not symbols

https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/grawlix

but yeah it uses symbols lol

(read the word not the "phonemes" lol)

i'm only saying this so people don't think i'm overattached to "symbolism" or some such shit

eta: i just edited the previous post a little bit, added some detail/clarification.

[choc e-Claire]

That was a really interesting theory, thanks.

I still find dream analysis bullshit, but amusing bullshit.

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Originally Posted by choc e-Claire

That was a really interesting theory, thanks.

I still find dream analysis bullshit, but amusing bullshit.

haha yes it’s bullshit.... but ... not exactly. well it depends.

these things like you see in magazines, with “this represents that,” right along numerology and daily horoscopes, predicting your future, is utter bullshit.

for me reading a dream it’s more like literary or film criticism: it’s unscientific, highly subjective, in need of good context, and often based on outmoded theories. but in spite of this... it’s sometimes apt/accurate, hahaha.

eta: one thing i like about the jungians is “everything in the dream is you”.

[choc e-Claire]

Slept in later than usual today having a dream about a girl.

Not even the one I'm crushing on.

Spare me your dream analysis, I'm sure it'll just come down to 'you wanna bone her'. (Which, I mean...I kinda do, but?)

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lmfao

[choc e-Claire]

Nevermind what I said, I have a theory: yesterday at work I saw a friend of mine who I haven't seen in ages, and he looks kinda like the girl I dreamed about - who I also haven't talked to in ages.

So maybe my subconscious just kinda...merged the two?

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Originally Posted by choc e-Claire

Nevermind what I said, I have a theory: yesterday at work I saw a friend of mine who I haven't seen in ages, and he looks kinda like the girl I dreamed about - who I also haven't talked to in ages.

So maybe my subconscious just kinda...merged the two?

lol i am not ready to read this one, but sure-- why can't your dreams be non-binary as well?

[choc e-Claire]

Originally Posted by !@#$%!

lol i am not ready to read this one, but sure-- why can't your dreams be non-binary as well?

I mean, the friend I did see is a trans guy IIRC, so I guess the whole gender boundaries are really blurred with my friendship group?

And I did notice he was cute and I liked his style, so of course it'd show up in some affectionate way in a dream. IDK, my conscious life is messy so surely my unconscious one should be too.

[d.sound]

Do dreams ever stop feeling like life? My dreams are loooong and intense and I confuse them with reality.

[ilduclo]

I dreamed about a train wreck the other night. It wasn’t scary, like I was on it or anything....

BTW
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/the-g...ming_b_5940128

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Originally Posted by choc e-Claire

I mean, the friend I did see is a trans guy IIRC, so I guess the whole gender boundaries are really blurred with my friendship group?

And I did notice he was cute and I liked his style, so of course it'd show up in some affectionate way in a dream. IDK, my conscious life is messy so surely my unconscious one should be too.

everybody’s unconscious is a cauldron of mess. nobody has that “organized.” ever. it’s also trans-everything.

im not saying what any of your dream “means” though. i’m only saying how that whole theatre operates.

[choc e-Claire]

Had a terrible dream about my grandfather, to the extent that I'm crying in bed at 4am.

Not going to share the details, but I think there's a few things with it: I don't like thinking about the past and what I was like in it, because I was way more obviously autistic and it embarrasses me - but I was also way more 'innocent' and careless, and I look at what I'm like now. And then at the same time I'm scared of the future - and of losing things / people I care about.

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Originally Posted by choc e-Claire

Had a terrible dream about my grandfather, to the extent that I'm crying in bed at 4am.

Not going to share the details, but I think there's a few things with it: I don't like thinking about the past and what I was like in it, because I was way more obviously autistic and it embarrasses me - but I was also way more 'innocent' and careless, and I look at what I'm like now. And then at the same time I'm scared of the future - and of losing things / people I care about.

im not a very good shoulder to cry on. fuck, i suck at it in fact.

but because i’m very analytical i’m good at problem-solving.

so let me skip the drying of tears (but i’m sorry, really, otherwise i would not be doing this) and get to what i do best

this is not a cure-all but a start obviously. i once listened to a long interview with this guy and found it fascinating:

http://tytashiro.com/

go and read his books, etc. i haven’t, but he had some very good analysis/advice in his interview and i think even that small bit i heard could be helpful to you. so, if i were you i’d go for the whole enchilada and read it all up, watch the videos, hear the podcasts, etc., and see what i can use.

ok! best wishes. hang in there.

[EVOLghost]

I might be moving back to Chicago single? I'm not going to get married?

Man...lots of things have been revealed! Turns out my girl n I love to spend time with each other and do it a lot...but that's about it! Ultimately...our end goals are different...

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Originally Posted by EVOLghost

I might be moving back to Chicago single? I'm not going to get married?

Man...lots of things have been revealed! Turns out my girl n I love to spend time with each other and do it a lot...but that's about it! Ultimately...our end goals are different...

holy shit!

damn dude... so sorry... but better to find out now than later

sheeeeeeeeeeeeettttt


you okay?

[EVOLghost]

Yeah....I'm alright. We just want different things...we thought we wanted the same things??? I dunno, it's complicated at the moment. Just got so busy with finishing our last two months here and this....it's been wild.


to quote the talking heads, 'things fall apart, it's scientific'.

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ah shit man

so sorry

hit me up on pm if you need

[choc e-Claire]

Had two dreams last night: one about the girl I'm crushing on and one about the end of the world.

Hard to decide which one's more important.