02.18.2012, 07:24 PM | #81 |
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Man, ATL might even be my favorite, really. I can't say. Sister is a 10, an A+, but ATL has a better ending. Sister obviously has a better beginning though
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02.18.2012, 07:58 PM | #82 | |
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You make some great points there, even if I don't necessarily agree with the core comparison which, to be fair you also acknowledge as being a bit of a 'stretch'. I don't want to come across as dismissing SY's post 80s output. Some of it I think is excellent. It just doesn't capture my imagination the way LPs like CiS, BMR, etc, did and, to an extent, still do. I think Murmer got it spot on when describing a certain nightmarish quality to those records. There's a strange bum trip campfire quality to songs like Halloween, Shaking Hell, Brother James, etc, which I think they pretty much abandoned quite early on. I can see why they moved on from that and in many ways respect them even more for doing so but I still think of those songs as the reason why I got into them in the first place and sort of became increasingly distant from them as a band the further they moved on from that template. But that's my problem, ultimately, not theirs. |
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02.19.2012, 06:18 PM | #83 | |
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I definitely understand. When bands shift or change styles it's hard to view their new styles objectively, and not just see the absence of the old style. But, funnily enough, I think their biggest change, and the one that lead to all the others, was from the twisted nightmare of Sister to the pristine daydream of... well... Daydream lol! |
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02.19.2012, 06:20 PM | #84 | |
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Not that Sister was a nightmare obviously. It's their best album, and is perfect from the intro of "Schizophrenia" to "Chic-ch-chiconne!" |
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02.19.2012, 06:55 PM | #85 |
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People would probably at least rethink less of me of they knew exactly how much I love the Cure. I don't think many could sit through Join the Dots in its entirety without losing their heads. To me its just nostalgic pornography.
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02.19.2012, 11:51 PM | #86 |
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I think itīs quite common in the music world today (maybe it has been there always) that many music fans canīt stand it that their idols become mature and change. I have always been totally opposite, I have always been interested the whole career of artists. Of course there are also my favourite artists that turn to something boring (for example Red Hot Chili Peppers, Rush, Genesis) but there are also artists that in my opinion stay fresh even they become kind of mature comparing their early days (SY, Nick Cave) and some become even more "aggressive" (Tom Waits). I think it is kind of sad, if people canīt stand the artist becoming mature at all, maybe itīs the common phenomeniun in these days culture, I mean that people want to stay young forever? But of course, people can live the way they want.
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02.20.2012, 12:00 AM | #88 |
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I see what you're saying. I wasn't implying that at all with sonic youth though... I still think it's a great thing that they didn't just become dull and repetitive. You never know what to except with them. That alone should earn everyones respect. Also, they're a band I'd follow (yeah... kind hard to do that now!) and support no matter what. I'm sure most people have a handful of artists whom they're "loyal" to regardless of the changes that are made. It's merely a matter of preference here. They went through different phases therefore there will be various reactions that are distinctive from one another. Most of their 90s-00s work was solid, but there were a few disappointments and the only one I'd consider great is Nurse. I don't know... I certainly don't despise "change" at all.
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02.20.2012, 12:19 AM | #89 | |
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ATL is my 2nd fave. after EVOL. |
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Hey now, tiger! That's nothing to be ashamed of! Take it from a former Bauhaus tee wearing goth girl. *mmwuah!* |
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02.21.2012, 08:52 AM | #93 | |
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We all do, friend. But they're different and have an undeniable subculture cred that the Cure, chart topping pop confectioners that they are, simply lack. At least that seems to be how the "elite" see it. Me, I'm not one to abide musical elitism. But I'd probably get a slug in the gut from my mates of they knew how often I listen to kiss me kiss me kiss me. |
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02.22.2012, 02:22 AM | #94 | |
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I think in the beginning of eighties Bauhaus was even more popular than the Cure. But of course after Bauhaus splitting the Cure become more famous. |
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