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Robert Christgau gets in on the action:
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From NPR:
Sleater-Kinney 2.0: The Band Talks About Its First Album In 10 Years You can download the whole program, which includes sneaky previews of three new songs. ALSO: take the Drum Fill Friday quiz with Janet, whynot! I'd love to say I got all 5 right... but I fucked one up. There's one with Spoon's Jim Eno as well. Sweet!
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Yeah I don't get why anyone gives a fuck whether or not she's acting and doing S-K at the same time. I mean.... What the hell does that have to do with anything? Why is it a reason to be apprehensive of the new music? Why is anyone bothered by someone doing *gasp!!!* TWO THINGS?
Kim Gordon was in Last Days while she was in Sonic Youth. Do we hate her too? I mean .... How dare she ??? Tom Waits has added his bizarre, diabolical voice and impeccable timing to several films. Some of them aren't good. Does it mean that Tom Waits is less of a musician? Fuck no, bitch! What's the problem here? And yes, Carrie would be and *was* a celebrity prior to Portlandia. Having seen S-K shows at venues all over the country, I can attest to this. If you can go to Memphis, LA, Seattle, Boston, Houston, Vancouver, Madrid, London, and Rome and have 2-3,000 people line up to see you in every single one of those locations, you're a celebrity. A lesser celebrity perhaps, certainly. But one doesn't have to be Brad Pitt to qualify. But I'm a little troubled by some of the whack ass shit people are saying in this thread. I've never known the SYG board to be a particularly smug or exclusive place, but there's been a lot of kinda petty scenestery wanking in this thread. ... Not trying to be a dick, just saying... There's new music coming out from one of your favorite bands! Fuck Portlandia. If you have issues with Carrie for being funny and being on a show, this is a weird time to piss and moan over it. At least I would understand bitching about the show when she was NOT reuniting with Sleater-Kinney. But bitching aboht Her acting now, when she IS making music with Sleater-Kinney? Shut the fuck up! Sorry, I just can't even imagine what is actually upsetting any of the S-K fans in the room. I'd eat all your assholes for an Unwound or Fugazi reunion, and I wouldn't give a shit if both bands had spent the past 12 years doing low-budget soft core porn movies for Showtime! Anyway, cheers folks! 😁 |
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Well, that's curtains for S-K. If Robert "Clueless Hippie Fossil" Christgau gives his enthusiastic endorsement to a band, they are no longer cool. ![]() |
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I remember when than TIME article was first published. I felt that it was pretty fair to call them the world's greatest rock band. REM received a similar label in the early '90s from... Well, from Rolling Stone. It's fitting.
Someone needs to hop-to and make the same assertion about Deerhunter. Not all bands can be given such a title. It takes a mixture of rock/pop directness and an experimental zest for recreation and discovery. Deerhunter has been that band in the underground since Cryptograms, and they've been that band in the semi-mainstream since Mocrocastle. They're not even the best band in the world, but they're the torch bearers of rock and roll's trashy, androgynous, Give-a-fuck purity. ![]() |
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Carrie was not a celebrity before Portlandia. That show gave her a national audience bigger than their shows ever could be. I dont resent her celebrity, I just thinks its lame. My actual beef is with the credit card commercials. I don't even like Sam Jackson doing them. Its literally the very definition of selling out and has not even zero but negative artistic value
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okay I'm not going to pass comment on their music, have definitely enjoyed a couple of tracks of theirs, but christ:
"Well, I really think Sleater-Kinney is a singular band with no clear predecessor or successor, so I don't think we started out creating music that you could see the palette of colors that we were using, and maybe draw a lineage. But certainly there wasn't a distinct band that we were pulling from, and I think subsequently, there haven't been bands that sounds like us. So I don't really know how we would've come back together and done anything other than be ourselves." "We wrote in my basement. It took on many permutations, and eventually we settled on a process that was a little more akin to what we had done in the early years, partially because Corin and I had to kind of reacquaint ourselves to the very specific vernacular that she and I speak, musically. And so, [she] and I would work on songs and then bring them to Janet, instead of jamming... It's almost telepathic. I think that Corin and I can complete each other's musical sentences in a way that never ceases to surprise me." brownstein certainly does have an astounding ego on her..how 'singular' can three women making purportedly political music with a rock palette in THE FUCKING 90s be??
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The genre wasnt unique then and Carrie has developed quite the ego but i get what she is saying, they weren't specifically trying "to sound" like any bands in particular. Also when we consider that there have been more than twelve bands between these three ladies its safe to say they are singular influence in music. Its not that they invented anything, but they definitely weren't copying other sounds
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If that's the case, Sleater-Kinney were UOA (Uncool On Arrival).
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In morse code that's an S, so... am I supposed to say — . — ?
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I get the singular thing... It's true. Like Nirvana, and REM, and Sonic Youth, Sleater-Kinney always had a sound that was their own. They had influences (Fugazi..) and they had peers... But they didn't actually sound like their predecessors or peers. Not quite. This is why their fans are so devoted. When bands sound like slight variations on other bands, as is the case with a lot of radio rock, and a lot of one-hitters, then maybe they stumble on one or two songs that grab yr balls, but you're not going to hear them and think "oh my, this is it! This is what I've been wanting to hear! It makes sense now!!" So yeah, they were singular and they were iconic in their region and era. Before the Internet made it easy to know about everything, S-K was known and loved by many many people. And I don't think calling them a political band is fair. They wrote songs about all kinds of topics, and they didn't drape their music with accompanying liberal imagery. In fact their whole look was pretty innocuous. They looked like people. Their album covers didn't betray their sound, like a lot of the more dime a dozen riot grrl bands from Oly and Portland. They made percussive staccato punk that you could dance to. Their style was the result of their combined personalities, and that's why nobody really sounds like them. I agree that this is the case. I also think the Woods was a weird place to end it. They were on the cusp of real celebrity, bigger by far than they had ever been before and they called it quits before they even had a chance to acclimate. So most people who know Sleater-Kinney probably found out about them through that album, which isn't a very good representation of their overall sound. Maybe they leveraged that success to pursue other interests while securing themselves an option for a big comeback. I don't know. Their first few records killed it. They were incredible and so goddamn fierce and sharp and focused. I am no longer the massive fan I once was. For me, they represented an era that's over. I don't need to see them play again, and I won't be pissing myself with anticipation for the new album, but I will always love their music, and I'm a bit surprised by the polarity of opinions in this thread. I haven't paid attention to what they've done in the last several years, but apparently it's worthy of some rancor. The car commercial thing doesn't sound cool at all. But it's Sleater-Kinney! They rocked and I'm happy for them, because I have no reason not to be. And if anyone surprised at Carrie's ego... Don't be. Ego might as well have its own layer in the biosphere of the Pacific Northwest. Everyone's so goddamn self-satisfied it's disgusting. But I'm sure Austin has that problem too... I'm sure Ann Arbor and Vancouver and Madison and all the mini-metropolitan hot beds of collegiate cool foster their own distinct brand of smugness and superiority. It's the way of the world. |
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^ Corin's a lovely human. Carrie isn't. Geography has nothing to do with it.
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Fucking shit brilliant synopsis I found myself dancing at so many S-K shows it was always part of the appeal loud but with a solid groove and all that without even having a bass?? I think I'm going to tweet that to Corin because Carrie wouldn't give a shit ![]()
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Come to think of it, Christgau was writing about Brownstein and Tucker even before there was a thing called Sleater-Kinney. Calling him a "clueless hippie" reveals an EGREGIOUS ignorance about his work.
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Let that shit die.
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Yeah, tweet that shit to Corin. Tell her it's from the scrawny solo dancer with the huge pupils who used to follow them around the west coast. I always thought they were incredibly listenable... Never understood the bitching and complaining about the supposed dying cat vocals.
Some people have such sissy fucking ears. It's hard to believe that it's hard to believe Sleater-Kinney reached this level of popularity, when there's a dude named Billy Corgan out there who howled like a fat little spoiled church boy who's mummy wouldn't let him eat the entire cake after the service. Now that man was like a child-sex predator, only instead of raping asses he went for earholes. And somehow managed to front one of the biggest bands of 1993-1997. |
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Making such a stupid insult reveals egregious ignorance about me. I am very familiar with this twat's work--back in the day I even had the compilations of his 70s and 80s reviews. If you like him, that's your problem. I'm not going to debate a nonentity who is increasingly desparate to prove he's relevant to younger listeners. And you can go fuck yourself. |
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Havent seen a great SYG battle in ages, keep it up you two!
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