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floatingslowly · 08.27.2009, 10:32 AM

midgets: obvious plot device.

!@#$%! · 08.27.2009, 10:35 AM

exactly, star wars is all about as small fucking inbred aristocracy fighting for the universe.

star trek is about people who WORK together to escape death and fulfill their mission.

sure, the captain shouldn't be going to EVERY dangerous mission where they could send a low-ranking officer (who the fuck is left in charge?). and sure, the enterprise could use some seatbelts so that they aren't tossed about in every explosion. wtf?

but still:

"Why is George Lucas peddling an elitist, anti-democratic agenda under the guise of escapist fun?"

Star Wars Despots vs. Star Trek Populists

""But there's probably no better form of government than a good despot."
-- George Lucas (New York Times interview, March 1999)

pbradley · 08.27.2009, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!

pffft-- the original star trek was pretty damn good stuff. if you allow for a moderate suspension of disbelief, it presents some pretty interesting situations and the characters are great and there's plenty of humor.

Might also want to suspend any and all distaste for ham-handed political analogies.

Oh, look, another 23rd Century civilization that also models itself after the Roman empire and/or the Cold War.

pbradley · 08.27.2009, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator

all good and wonderful.
I to dug it. but I was 12.

Whatever, paps, go back to building your model airplanes.

@ FloSlo - Yeah, mine died, too.

Rob Instigator · 08.27.2009, 01:28 PM

model airplanes?

I is confused.

it's cool to love star wars but for anyone to compare it to actual science fiction is ridiculous.

pbradley · 08.27.2009, 01:47 PM

It all depends upon the limits in which one defines the scope of the fiction's divorce from science fact. The fantasic elements of Star Wars is understood in terms of technology rather than supernatural terms and, in that, is a scientific adaptation of fantasy and fantasy is fiction.

In all, I really think it's unnessecarily pedantic to give a shit. Also to define science fiction in terms of scientific progress will undermine it as a literary genre as you keep punting its pioneers into fantasy.

!@#$%! · 08.27.2009, 02:19 PM

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Might also want to suspend any and all distaste for ham-handed political analogies.

sure--it's network tv! still, better than the new-agey "force"

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Originally Posted by pbradley

Oh, look, another 23rd Century civilization that also models itself after the Roman empire and/or the Cold War.

another? as far as i know, there were no 23rd century civilizations on TV before 1966, but you probably know better.

re: the romulans-- found this wikipedia bit:

The Romulans were created by Paul Schneider, who said, "it was a matter of developing a good Romanesque set of admirable antagonists...an extension of the Roman civilization to the point of space travel."

what's so wrong with that? it's not like they fight with stupid light sabers...

pbradley · 08.27.2009, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!

The Romulans were created by Paul Schneider, who said, "it was a matter of developing a good Romanesque set of admirable antagonists...an extension of the Roman civilization to the point of space travel."

what's so wrong with that? it's not like they fight with stupid light sabers...

Yeah, they fight with submachine guns.

!@#$%! · 08.27.2009, 02:39 PM

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Yeah, they fight with submachine guns.

PURE AWESOME

can't wait till i get to that episode

Rob Instigator · 08.27.2009, 02:40 PM

terriblecanyons · 08.27.2009, 02:42 PM

Repped

!@#$%! · 08.27.2009, 02:53 PM

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Repped

sí!

Toilet & Bowels · 08.27.2009, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator

star wars, mid 70's, strictly crack ass white until lando calrrissian shows up in the middle of the second movie. all the bad guys are British, cuz we know how evil THEY are. the bad guys are imperialistic, and totalitarian. the good guys are monarchistic. If the "queen" and "king" of naboo are elected, as stated in the second series of flicks, then why is Leia a "princess?" where exactly are they in the end of the first movie where she gives two guys medals, and not others like wedge and the dead (posthumous medals?)

princess leia is from alderaan, presumably the people who adopted her were the royal family of alderaan. the rebels are fighting for the interplanetary rebuplic/democracy, not the monarchy.
i don't get what you're saying is inconsistent about the end of the first movie.

floatingslowly · 08.27.2009, 05:08 PM

Rob obviously has no idea what the hell he's talking about.

Toilet & Bowels · 08.27.2009, 05:23 PM

i think they've confused the boringness of star trek with intellectual superiority.

greedrex · 08.27.2009, 05:47 PM

once i got dumped by a girl i absolutely loved / worshipped because I WASN4T GOOD ENOUGH IN BED.
This is a true story.
Even after a few months, i was still so intimated and in awe in front of the girl's naked pure beauty, that i just couldn't get an erection. Pathetic. It took me a long time to recover from this.

floatingslowly · 08.27.2009, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Toilet & Bowels

i think they've confused the boringness of star trek with intellectual superiority.

speaking of, I feel that it needs to be on record that Mr. Bowels just might be the only creature in all of creation that could completely TROUNCE me at Star Wars trivia.

e chu ta.

!@#$%! · 08.27.2009, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Toilet & Bowels

i think they've confused the boringness of star trek with intellectual superiority.

so there's no dullness in star wars?

let's see

or midgets, for that matter? (forgot to reply to flotterz)

floatingslowly · 08.27.2009, 06:16 PM

fucking JAWAS infuriate me.

gungans are good for something. killin'. trust me, I've had max-negative gungan rep before.

ewoks too. don't make me post Juicy.

!@#$%! · 08.27.2009, 06:16 PM

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once i got dumped by a girl i absolutely loved / worshipped because I WASN4T GOOD ENOUGH IN BED.
This is a true story.
Even after a few months, i was still so intimated and in awe in front of the girl's naked pure beauty, that i just couldn't get an erection. Pathetic. It took me a long time to recover from this.

shit man, that's terrible, terrible.

you meant "intimidated". yeah. that's why you should have debased her immediately. this would have uncramped your style. but shit happens when we're young and clueless, then we learn-- oh well...

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08.27.2009, 10:32 AM	#81
floatingslowly invito al cielo Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 21,165	midgets: obvious plot device.
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08.27.2009, 10:35 AM	#82
!@#$%! invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: mars attacks Posts: 42,564	exactly, star wars is all about as small fucking inbred aristocracy fighting for the universe. star trek is about people who WORK together to escape death and fulfill their mission. sure, the captain shouldn't be going to EVERY dangerous mission where they could send a low-ranking officer (who the fuck is left in charge?). and sure, the enterprise could use some seatbelts so that they aren't tossed about in every explosion. wtf? but still: "Why is George Lucas peddling an elitist, anti-democratic agenda under the guise of escapist fun?" Star Wars Despots vs. Star Trek Populists ""But there's probably no better form of government than a good despot." -- George Lucas (New York Times interview, March 1999)
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08.27.2009, 01:28 PM	#85
Rob Instigator invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: In the land of the Instigator Posts: 27,975	model airplanes? I is confused. it's cool to love star wars but for anyone to compare it to actual science fiction is ridiculous. __________________ RXTT's Intellectual Journey - my new blog where I talk about all the books I read.
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08.27.2009, 01:47 PM	#86
pbradley invito al cielo Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: SoKo Posts: 10,621	It all depends upon the limits in which one defines the scope of the fiction's divorce from science fact. The fantasic elements of Star Wars is understood in terms of technology rather than supernatural terms and, in that, is a scientific adaptation of fantasy and fantasy is fiction. In all, I really think it's unnessecarily pedantic to give a shit. Also to define science fiction in terms of scientific progress will undermine it as a literary genre as you keep punting its pioneers into fantasy.
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08.27.2009, 02:40 PM	#90
Rob Instigator invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: In the land of the Instigator Posts: 27,975	__________________ RXTT's Intellectual Journey - my new blog where I talk about all the books I read.
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08.27.2009, 02:42 PM	#91
terriblecanyons invito al cielo Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: the land where large fuzzy dice still hang proudly like testicles from rear-view mirrors Posts: 5,949	Repped
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floatingslowly invito al cielo Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 21,165	Rob obviously has no idea what the hell he's talking about.
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Toilet & Bowels invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northern Europe Posts: 12,268	i think they've confused the boringness of star trek with intellectual superiority.
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08.27.2009, 05:47 PM	#96
greedrex invito al cielo Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: in yr fotobukit Posts: 6,588	once i got dumped by a girl i absolutely loved / worshipped because I WASN4T GOOD ENOUGH IN BED. This is a true story. Even after a few months, i was still so intimated and in awe in front of the girl's naked pure beauty, that i just couldn't get an erection. Pathetic. It took me a long time to recover from this. __________________ Greed Recordings bandcamp ~The Rex~, stalkin' yr shit since 2008.
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08.27.2009, 06:16 PM	#99
floatingslowly invito al cielo Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 21,165	fucking JAWAS infuriate me. gungans are good for something. killin'. trust me, I've had max-negative gungan rep before. ewoks too. don't make me post Juicy.
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