[pbradley]

Message boards are the best example of eternal recurrence I've ever witnessed.

[atsonicpark]

Originally Posted by Lurker

You're an idiot.

So Rob has to make you laugh before his opinion becomes valid?


So you can't have a negative opinion of Tom Green because he's good is basically what you're saying. What if you don't think he's good?

Yes, I am clearly an idiot, for replying to this yet again, constantly breaking down one throw-away sentence in order to simplify it so you can clearly understand it.

Here, I'll try one more time here.. let me paraphrase the whole argument here for you, in comedic terms, I'll put words in everyone's mouths like people do to me, but it's for comedy! It's for comedy, so it's okay! Here goes!

Me: Tom Green is a genius!
Rob: TOM GREEN SUCKS, HE NEEDS TO DIE, HE HAS NO FANS! HE ISN'T FUNNY!
Me: Tom Green belongs to a school of anti-humor, like Kaufman and Neil Hamburger, he can't be judged on the same terms as everyone else.
Rob: NO! HE'S JUST AN IDIOT! JUST SHOCK TACTIC SHIT!
Me: Oh, really, and what brilliant comedic innovations have you brought to the table lately? The dude's a genius! Forward-thinking, and everyone's ripped him off!
ROB: AND ANDY KAUFMAN ISN'T FUNNY EITHER! FUCK THAT SHIT! IF I WANT COMEDY I'LL DA DA DA DA.
Me: Blah blah blah.
infinitemusic: [idiot bullshit]
Lurker: DUh UmM OH eh?

There ya go.

Rob's opinion is completely valid to me -- I don't outright dismiss anyone's opinion... buuuuuuuut Rob does have a habit of outright dismissing TONS of things, often for completely ridiculous reasons -- this band "sucks" because they don't "rock", this comedian uses "shock tactics" so he is automatically "shitty", etc. So, um. Yeah. That's all. Seems pretty clear to me. Or do I need to simplify it again?

Wait, I will!

I don't give a shit who likes Tom Green, but he's still important in the history, the evolution, of comedy. There'd be no Jackass without Tom Green, for example. He's a true original, one of a kind. Fuck, I don't like the Beatles at all, but I recognize them as important to popular music. I do give a shit when people outright dismiss things for ridiculous reasons. Or, at least I did when I replied to this stuff like 15 hours ago. Now I just wanna drink a beer with Rob and look at big asses.

[Lurker]

Originally Posted by atsonicpark

Me: Tom Green belongs to a school of anti-humor, like Kaufman and Neil Hamburger, he can't be judged on the same terms as everyone else.
Rob: NO! HE'S JUST AN IDIOT! JUST SHOCK TACTIC SHIT!
Me: Oh, really, and what brilliant comedic innovations have you brought to the table lately? The dude's a genius! Forward-thinking, and everyone's ripped him off!

Rob gives you a reason for not liking Tom Green (shock tactics do get tedious really quickly) and then you say "well what have you done Rob?" It's irrelevant what Rob has done. It's not something he has defend himself on, and it doesn't have anything to do with whether he is qualified or not to criticise. Rob is not going around saying he is comedian.

[atsonicpark]

Sure, but what I said is not something that's a big deal in the least; like, I don't mean any malice behind it, it was just a simple aside... it's all in good nature, no reason for anyone on here to put some spin on it like it was some kind of personal attack, that I was trying to invalidate his opinions with that little quote. It was more saying -- hey, this guy has done tons of forward-thinking shit that shouldn't be outright dismissed -- what have you done? Hell, what have >I< done? What has anyone done, that even comes close to some of the innovations Mr. Green has brought to the world? I think he's importance, it's worth recognizing his importance.

..But, anyway, if someone doesn't like shock tactics that's fine, but I'd say that's only like 10% of his material. Either way.

[Lurker]

AAaaaaahhhh!!!!!!!!!! I can't be bothered anymore!

[atsonicpark]

Now that's funny.

Right, Tom?

 

Bahahaha!

[atsonicpark]

 

oh man.

[atsonicpark]

But, seriously, folks, does anyone on here LOVE Neil Hamburger?

 

Saw this dude live twice and I literally pissed myself laughing so much. Funniest thing I've ever seen!

[Lurker]

Originally Posted by atsonicpark

 

oh man.

Yes, you're right. Those faces are very innovative.

[atsonicpark]

Haha.

Repped.

...but, seriously, he invented his own type of comedy. He put turds on microphones and interviewed people while shoving the turd closer and closer to people's faces.

[pbradley]

Originally Posted by atsonicpark

But, seriously, folks, does anyone on here LOVE Neil Hamburger?

Saw this dude live twice and I literally pissed myself laughing so much. Funniest thing I've ever seen!

He's funnier when people hate him.

[Toilet & Bowels]

I think the deal with the characters in Peep Show that while they lack almost any redeeming qualities they have such numerous bad qualities that we can see our own worse behaviour reflected in them, and then we laugh at ourselves. But I can understand this kind of humour may go right over the heads of the pompous, egomaniacal, or unself-aware.

[ni'k]

Originally Posted by Toilet & Bowels

I think the deal with the characters in Peep Show... this kind of humour may go right over the heads of the pompous, egomaniacal, or unself-aware.

i love peep show!

except series 6 which is crap. shark jumped.

to me it was just an occasionally quite funny show about 20 something life in the 00's. outside of peep show i find both of them a bit douchey. i liked how uncool robert webb was, how he didn't give a fuck and would rather sit down and read the times and have a cup of tea. i liked his "young fogeyness", until he was on the big fat quiz of the year and he said he had bought a susan boyle album. and it wasn't a joke, he had actually bought it. and sat down and listened to it, and i pictured him thinking "time for a relaxing treat, mmm yes this is quite reasonable, talented singing. 12 quid well spent" and my image of him was shattered and all that young fogeyness became conservative douchery. but he's the kind of guy you think "seems like a decent bloke" which is the whole point of the person he betrays himself as.

yet some of peep show, the first 5 seasons have moments of really great comedy, better than anything else apart from the thick of it and xavier that i've seen this decade.

[Count Mecha]

I saw this Neil Hamburger edition of What's in My Bag on youtube and he got a Kenny Rogers tape to replace the one that was stuck in his car for seven years. As well as his own country album purely for the sake of plugging it to the audience. Crazy comb over.

Anyway, Yakov Smirnoff is horribly unfunny.

[Rob Instigator]

humor is all personal and subjective.

I prefer comedians who do their laugh magic through words alone. I feel a good comedian should be hilarious even if all you can do is hear the sound of his voice alone. Of course that is just a personal bias.

[Genteel Death]

Originally Posted by Lurker

Genteel Death.

I don't even have much of a sense of humour. Occasionally I get lucky and someone finds something I say funny. That leaves me plenty of time to decide what amuses me and what doesn't, peep show being a series that does job.

[!@#$%!]

Originally Posted by Toilet & Bowels

I think the deal with the characters in Peep Show that while they lack almost any redeeming qualities they have such numerous bad qualities that we can see our own worse behaviour reflected in them, and then we laugh at ourselves. But I can understand this kind of humour may go right over the heads of the pompous, egomaniacal, or unself-aware.

does that mean that if one strives to be as plain, humble and self-aware as you evidently are --O Holy One-- some day the humor of this particular show may strike one between the eyes, like a bolt of enlightenment?

i can see now how you'd find your own reflection in that thing.

[Green_mind]

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator

I feel a good comedian should be hilarious even if all you can do is hear the sound of his voice alone.

you're not a fan of Pasquale are you? :P

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTN4RLLpRYc

[Genteel Death]

Maybe Rob meant that rule no. 2053 says that sometimes something obvious can be very funny, like seeing someone getting trapped between doors etc.
Pasquale, Skinner and Baddiel all suck.

[Rob Instigator]

never heard of this "pasquale" character