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View Poll Results: Are we living in a police state? | |||
Yes, we are |
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26 | 50.00% |
No, we are not |
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6 | 11.54% |
I don't know and/or don't care |
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3 | 5.77% |
I am not a U.S. Citizen |
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17 | 32.69% |
Voters: 52. You may not vote on this poll |
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From a British perspective, the whole Hilary/Obama thing is entirely mystifying. It's as though the Democrats want to make a point of internal principle rather than actually win an election. Obviously, being British, I have to take almost as much interest in the US election as I do my own. Given that sad fact, the prospect of the Democrats throwing away their chance in this way genuinely annoys me. They don't just have a responsibilty to their own party, but to their country and the world to take this far more seriously than they appear to be.
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I'll vote for whichever Democrat wins the primary as usual.
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My two cents: we (in the UK amyway), live in a corporate state, and all the main political parties exist now purely to serve these interests. I don't see it changing anytime soon - only a total meltdown of the economy would shake things up, and as seen in the Northern Rock episode here, the UK Government will do all it can to uphold corporate interests whilst dumping on it's subjects on a daily basis. Still, it's all marvellous, innit?
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Remember when they used to have enquiries into that kind of thing? Heseltine and the Westlands fiasco? Now it's just shrugged off as 'economic responsibility'.
I'd like to say the way out is to endorse minority parties but looking at them they're just as bad, only without the corporate endorsement and seem only to serve crackpot fringe-groups instead. BNP - White rascists Respect - Muslim fundamentalists and Students that never read their manifesto. Despite what i said about minority parties, I'll probably be voting Green again this election. And if they got into power they'll probably be just as big corporate whores, only this time they'll be turning tricks for Ben n Jerry's and the Wild Bean Cafe. Bet your life that Paul Mccartney will do their campaign song too! |
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That's ridiculous, I can never undrestand how politics has became a media circus in the states...
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I seriously think that American politics needs a shake up before the whole world suffers for their sins...
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FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Contacts: Jack Aponte (jack @ srlp.org, 347-247-1526) Naomi Clark (naomi @ srlp.org, 917-907-4870) Police Brutality Strikes Fifth Anniversary of Sylvia Rivera Law Project NEW YORK - On the night of Wednesday, September 26, officers from the 9th Precinct of the New York Police Department attacked without provocation members of the Sylvia Rivera Law Project and of its community. Two of our community members were violently arrested, and others were pepper sprayed in the face without warning or cause. The Sylvia Rivera Law Project (www.srlp.org) is an organization that works on behalf of low-income people of color who are transgender, gender non-conforming, or intersex, providing free legal services and advocacy among many other initiatives. On Wednesday night, the Sylvia Rivera Law Project was celebrating its fifth anniversary with a celebration and fundraising event at a bar in the East Village. A group of our community members, consisting largely of queer and transgender people of color, witnessed two officers attempting to detain a young Black man outside of the bar. Several of our community members asked the officers why they were making the arrest and using excessive force. Despite the fact that our community was on the sidewalk, gathered peacefully and not obstructing foot traffic, the NYPD chose to forcefully grab two people and arrested them. Without warning, an officer then sprayed pepper spray across the group in a wide arc, temporarily blinding many and causing vomiting and intense pain. "This is the sort of all-too-common police violence and overreaction towards people of color that happens all the time," said Dean Spade, founder of the Sylvia Rivera Law Project. "It's ironic that we were celebrating the work of an organization that specifically opposes state violence against marginalized communities, and we experienced a police attack at our celebration." "We are outraged, and demand that our community members be released and the police be held accountable for unnecessary use of excessive force and falsely arresting people," Spade continued. Damaris Reyes is executive director of GOLES, an organization working to preserve the Lower East Side. She commented, "I'm extremely concerned and disappointed by the 9th Precinct's response to the situation and how it escalated into violence. This kind of aggressive behavior doesn't do them any good in community-police relations." Supporters will be gathering at 100 Centre Street tomorrow, where the two community members will be arraigned. The community calls for charges to be dropped and to demand the immediate release of those arrested. ******* The Audre Lorde Project Center for Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Two Spirit & Transgender |
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I am always amazed how many times police, for no apparent reason, beat the crap out of innocent people.
You would think with the amount of times it allegedly happens some bugger would have captured pictures on their mobile phone or even a bit of video footage. Whilst I appreciate that not all police are innocent and some certainly do go over the top and deserve to be jailed, I just find, in an age where everyone from the age of 12 upwards seems to have a mobile phone with a camera on it, that there is this distinct lack of independant incontrovertible evidence |
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I haven't been called any names yet today by atari! Maybe he took his meds for a change...maybe the Feds aren't sending him his paycheck...
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crim...html?p rint=1 Science teacher's brush with police ends in heart attack -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- BY JOHN MARZULLI DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER Monday, October 8th 2007, 4:00 AM Lester Jacob says he was nearly scared to death by NYPD cops who mistook him for a perp. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- A mild-mannered Brooklyn high school teacher says he was nearly scared to death by NYPD cops who mistook him for a perp. When the violent encounter was over, Lester Jacob, 50, suffered a heart attack and was left on his own in the street by cops, who accused him of "acting." In July he underwent open-heart surgery. Jacob had the misfortune to be driving home through Brownsville, Brooklyn, on June 22 around the same time cops were on the lookout for a hit-and-run driver. Jacob, an earth science teacher at James Madison High School in Midwood, heard a siren, looked in his rear-view mirror and dutifully pulled over for the radio car behind him. He wasn't prepared for what happened next. Two officers rushed up to Jacob's vehicle and pointed their guns at his head, according to a lawsuit filed in Brooklyn Federal Court. Cursing at him, they ordered Jacobs out of the car and roughly cuffed him. "One officer crushed his knee into Mr. Jacob's back," the complaint states. "They then repeatedly slammed his head onto the car and then pressed his head against the car for some time." Additional officers arrived on the scene with a witness to the earlier accident. The witness told them Jacob was the wrong guy. "'I told you it was a white Maxima,'" the witness reportedly said, according to the complaint. Jacob drives a white Infiniti. Jacob told the cops he was experiencing chest pains and began coughing uncontrollably. A female cop said, "Nice acting," according to Jacob, and then drove off. Jacob said he struggled to drive home, stopping to vomit on the side of the road. His wife rushed him to the hospital, where doctors determined he had suffered a heart attack. "I was scared to death," Jacob said of his brush with the NYPD. "I was feeling terror." His attorney John Lambros said there was no reason for the cops to handcuff or use excessive force against the 150-pound teacher while they were waiting for the witness to show up. The cops were not identified, but their radio car number has been turned over to the Civilian Complaint Review Board. A spokeswoman for the city Law Department said the complaint is being reviewed. |
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We don't live in a 'police state' or 'fascist state', we live in a state of domestic neglect. So long as Downing Street and The White House continues on its global odyssey applying band-aids to the world's problems, we should be demanding that our governments take a long hard look at the mess on their own doorstep.
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