[acousticrock87]

James Iha has always seemed like a cool guy. His hating Billy only furthers that assumption.

[deflinus]

check out his solo album, pretty good record. you can see how he alone added that coolness to the early pumpkins sound

[LittlePuppetBoy]

Wintersleep.

God damn it, it was cliche "indie rock" bullcrap. Boring as hell.

[Everyneurotic]

re: yngwie malmsteen, like i said, it's not like everyone plays guitar like that, but everyone could if they weren't lazy bastards, it's not like, as much as you practice, you will start writing songs like don van vliet or, like, if you practiced a shitload you could be as good as michael jordan in basketball (yeah, you would be a good player, but you don't have his talent, so to speak.)

i mean, it's not like it's a world of difference or that i'm implying he's one of the best musicians ever because he has flaws, but joe satriani plays pretty much the same style of music a whole world better than yngwie because he plays his own way, tries to experiment and to write songs instead of wanking off for 40 minutes a record. and techniquewise, they can pretty much go neck to neck.

[atsonicpark]

I figured that's what you meant Everyneurotic, I just wanted to expand upon it, but yeah I agree definitely.

I wish I could write like Van Vliet

[pbradley]

This is why I hate bands that attempt to make up for uninteresting songwriting with complex technical skill (which seems to be really big these days). If you are talented at writing interesting songs, whether you're noodling all over the place or playing just power chords doesn't really matter.

[Cantankerous]

writing good songs is not easy.

writing a standard rock song is very easy though.

[atsonicpark]

Hm.

[acousticrock87]

I don't think writing good songs is as difficult as realizing what songs you write are actually good, or have the potential to be.

[PAULYBEE2656]

Originally Posted by acousticrock87

I don't think writing good songs is as difficult as realizing what songs you write are actually good, or have the potential to be.

 

[atsonicpark]

haha

[atsonicpark]

I want to bump this thread because I realize it's more fun to talk about shitty bands rather than good ones!

[Kallisti23chaos]

weezer -( about 6 or 7 years ago.) whatever summer they played.?? the strokes supposedly were going to open for them ,but cancelled right before the show.unknown to us. we stayed and watched Weezer for about five minutes and it was time to go. terrible.

[atsonicpark]

I can see khanate being terrible live.

[whereboysfeartotread]

the casualties...

and i dont think i need a reason...

[king_buzzo]

this crappy dutch band called moke opened up for paul weller last night.

they were horrible. they had tallent and they sounded really good but their songs were just plain bad. they had no meaning and they sounded like ripoffs.

hat sounds horrible, but where did you see that talent then?

[uhler]

Originally Posted by king_buzzo

this crappy dutch band called moke opened up for paul weller last night.

they were horrible. they had tallent and they sounded really good but their songs were just plain bad. they had no meaning and they sounded like ripoffs.

did paul weller play any jam songs?

[batreleaser]

worst shows ive ever seen:

of montreal
blink 182/fenix tx/bad religion at mgm grand when i was 12 (i guess its sorta cool ive seen bad religion though)
modest mouse opening for rem
the counting crows when i was 7
kanye west/rihanna/nerd over the summer (talk about a waste of money, went with my ex girlfriend after falsely assuming id get pussy out of it, fucking gip)
interpol

[Smokers Gifts]

There's so many to choose from, I would take a crappy local band in a pub over a shit major label band in a big venue any day. At least the local band aren't getting paid loads of money for sucking, and I can go get a nice pint of beer whilst they do.

In no particular order:
Susanna and the Magical Orchestra/ Jamie Liddell, Manchester Halle Concert Hall, 2005. I was stewarding at a festival and I got free tickets, and it was an ordeal to stay til the end. Both acts utterly turgid and soulless cack.

The Darkness, Stoke on Trent Sugarmill, 2003. Just rubbish. The guy I went with just went oh my god, kurt died for nothing. Which is weird cos he was about 45. Sorta knew what he meant though.

Galway Festival 1998, Pulp, Cornershop, Beastie Boys, Garbage. This wasn't bad because of the bands, but I was on holiday with my dad, and not being into 'loud music' he dropped me off on my own in a football field on the outskirts of Galway filled with about 5000 irish students getting progressively drunkerer and drunkerer and more blarney with it. There were about 3 food stalls and 2 stalls selling strange neo pagan/Catholic/Wiccan trinkets.
I watched most of the bands queuing up in the beer line which stretched the length of the pitch, or queuing in the toilet line, to have a piss in what resembled and probably was a pig run. The Beastie Boys were pretty good as I remember, didnt know many of their songs then, Cornershop were inoffensive. It got dark before Pulp came on and I got a bus back early cos I was bricking it, was bitterly disappointed to miss my only chance ever to see them, walked in the B+B to find my dad listening to the entire concert on the local radio who informed me it hadn't finished yet. Garbage lived up to their name.

V2001 Festival. I stewarded, it rained, the bogs leaked, RHCP and Nellie Furtado, nuff said.

Aphex Twin at ATP, 2002, dull as ditchwater.

Blur, Birmingham Arena, 2000, Awful Sound, lacklustre greatest hits performance, odious psycho fan scum crowd, got a pint of beer tipped down my neck in 30 seconds, grown men were trampling teenage girls screaming in agony underfoot to get a foot closer to Damon Albarn. He seemed to really enjoy this spectacle.

VVM at Birmingham Supersonic 2003. Guys dress in plastic pigs masks, one plays vague laptop noise, the other stomps about and yowls (sort of reminds me of some other 'legendary' noise band, yawn). Everyone carries on with their conversations. After 10 minutes Stompy says 'Right, we're only doing one more, then we're fuckin off, cos yers all reet boring basteds int yuh?' People's conversations are simply too fascinating for them to care.

There's loads more, but think I've said enough. I think I've learned that gigs you pay to go to are generally better than ones you sneak into, especially if you're not familiar with the act. Oh, and the only one that was a headlining gig and not a festival of these was the Darkness, so I guess they must be the fuckin worst! Oh, no I missed Blur, they are the shitness too.