[Genteel Death]

Nick is providing subliminal entertainment for the post-jaded, pleasure-seeking proletariat. You don't need to really get his posts, you just need to pretend they're there. The message is only disclosed via the gradual disintegration of all medical evidence in the face of imminent mental collapse. Duh.

[Decayed Rhapsody]

What Would Zizek Do?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5yoqjABeBM

[narlus]

Buzzo weighs in on the state of selling music today:
http://thephoenix.com/BLOGS/onthedow...#ixzz1OVU1Wk4u

[the ikara cult]

Originally Posted by nicfit

nik brings the lulz and people actually read his long posts.
grade a-mazing.
I download music and buy music.
I like buying stuff I like.
Especially when the packaging etc. is interesting/well conceived/cleverly put together/etc.
End.
Have fun!

Are you two not the same person?

[nicfit]

Originally Posted by the ikara cult

Are you two not the same person?

Haha are you serious?

[Savage Clone]

I wonder if putting in five months of preliminary work that culminates in three consecutive 14-16 hour days of heavy manual labor and coordination of personnel in combination with a MASSIVE financial risk and zero pay counts as "giving something back" or not.
Because that is my annual music fest that I have helped throw for the past eight years.

[Savage Clone]

Originally Posted by The Watcher

I like downloading to sample music, but if I like something I'll buy it...... I think it's important to support bands, labels, brick and mortar stores, and the like...... I like vinyl but I find it kind of pointless, sure it looks great but I don't think anyone can make the "analog purity" argument in 2011, there's a 99 percent chance somehow it was recorded digitally, or mastered digitally, etc. And if you have a high quality stereo set up you're not really going to notice any difference. If you are, chances are it's surface noise.

Anyway, it's important to buy records, given the huge amount of choice outthere you'd be crazy if you're buying everything, but it's still important.

Also: I will be dead in the cold cold ground before I pay for an mp3.

We are on the same page for the most part, but the way I see it, the only time one really CAN tell the difference between digital/AAA recordings and hear atrifacts and such is when one has a very high-quality stereo system.

I also think that if one has made the investment in a good syatem, one should also invest in the highest-quality recording available of the music one is interested in. What is the point otherwise?

[The Watcher]

I agree - my stereo is grey but at a certain point a lot ofthe stuff I like is not readily available in LP format. I'd take a CD copy of Amon Duul IIs Yeti than a download any day, although if it's available on LP I'm not even sure if which route I would go, vinyl seems to be so much more expensive than it used to be. And worse yet I've just moved into a condo and could t take any of my CDs with me for space reasons, I've got a shelf of my favorite LPs and a hard drive full of 320 mps of the rest of my collection.......

Oh well at least my LPs sound great and my stereo is awesome.......

[Savage Clone]

One of the jewels in my collection is my German original of "Yeti."
That was a major score.

[The Watcher]

Originally Posted by narlus

Buzzo weighs in on the state of selling music today:
http://thephoenix.com/BLOGS/onthedow...#ixzz1OVU1Wk4u

I really liked the part about how theres going to be no studios, no chances taken and what not with he loss of the albums, but you know what, just because that's the way the future is heading doesn't mean I have to agree with it...... I have zero interest inThe Melvins musically but Buzzo is spot on opinion wise........

[jonathan]

All the Amon Duul II represses I've ever seen are ridiculously fucking expensive. I still wouldn't mind picking one up though.

[The Watcher]

Originally Posted by Savage Clone

One of the jewels in my collection is my German original of "Yeti."
That was a major score.

Rad stuff. My brother has a Repertoire reissue 2xLP that coat him fifty dollars, I'm sorry I like records and since it's probably my favorite LP I'd consider it, but I've got a long list of stuff I want and I'd rather pay the 16 dollars for the CD version....... I feel like every LP put there these is ridiculously overpriced, just because it's vinyl....... I'll bet the cost of manufacturing is high yes but I distinctly remember a time in myofetime where for many records the LP version was the same price or a dollar less....... And this is 15-17 years ago, not the 80's or whatever. Granted the price of CDs has go e down, but come on.......

[Savage Clone]

Without covers, manufacturing 500 LPs costs close to $2000.00. And then there are the covers. Break-even pricing once it goets through distro channels (for small pressings at least) makes a $15.00 retail price pretty close to rock-bottom for LPs. Double LPs with color covers? More still
Manufacturing CDs is about 9 times less expensive.

[the ikara cult]

Originally Posted by nicfit

Haha are you serious?

I always thought that he was an alter ego of you... apologies if im wrong

[nicfit]

No need for apologies, but yes, you're very very wrong, my friend.

[The Watcher]

Originally Posted by Savage Clone

Without covers, manufacturing 500 LPs costs close to $2000.00. And then there are the covers. Break-even pricing once it goets through distro channels (for small pressings at least) makes a $15.00 retail price pretty close to rock-bottom for LPs. Double LPs with color covers? More still
Manufacturing CDs is about 9 times less expensive.

My understanding is the labels used to lose money on LPs and make it up with CD sales, but I guess no one is willing to take these risks anymore...... Since no one is buying CDs anymore......

[Glice]

I asked someone earlier what the difference is between a DVD and a CD. She answered none, except I'll pay for a DVD. Let's just put that one out: why do people still pay for films, or other DVD content, but not recordings?

[Derek]

Because it seems that movie downloading is still generally unknown to the mainstream public. Ask Joe Bloggs what a torrent is and he'll have no idea.

[The Watcher]

Ironically I just moved and cancelled my cable, and am now totally reliant on an HD antenna and torrenting (or at least I will be when my ISP installs my Internet tomorrow). Do I feel paying independent musicians and paying TV stations or movie studios money is even remotely the same thing? Not even close! Will I purchase DVDs from bands I like (such as Opeth)? Yes indeed I will!! However I will buy a DVD every now and again if it's worth it to me (it rarely is).......

[Derek]

I've noticed recently that DVDs are also now cheaper than CDs generally. So many awesome movies on amazon for a penny.