[knox]

Originally Posted by !@#$%!

i don't have a problem with "women", i just have a problem with you.

you're just one crazy person who can't find a way to sell a valid argument and blames the world for their own incompetence.

Of course, statistics from all around the world aren't a way to sell a valid argument.

As for incompetence, yes, most of the time it's pretty difficult to win.
But other times we do win something and whenever that happens it makes it all worth it.

About me being crazy, that's 100% accurate.
But I personally think it's better than being insensitive.

As for you having a problem with "women", arguable. Some of your posts in the past would suggest otherwise, but that's not my problem.

[!@#$%!]

Originally Posted by knox

Of course, statistics from all around the world aren't a way to sell a valid argument.

As for incompetence, yes, most of the time it's pretty difficult to win.
But other times we do win something and whenever that happens it makes it all worth it.

About me being crazy, that's 100% accurate.
But I personally think it's better than being insensitive.

As for you having a problem with "women", arguable. Some of your posts in the past would suggest otherwise, but that's not my problem.

it's just the general stupidity of the "everyone who disagrees with me is a rapist" that comes across as a dishonest and indefensible argument.

anyway, here's a woman who doesn't cry about it---

 

did you see her spank those u.s. senate fools? now that's a woman i admire today. no excuses--just intelligence and toughness and sensitivity as well-- she doesn't feel sorry for herself. she did great.

here a little video for everyone to enjoy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=xIO6ezhGQ1s

[keep poppin pimples]

Originally Posted by knox

true that some countries are way worse than others but there is no place where women are not oppressed.

you know i was questioning him whether pornmovies may have existed in the middle ages. like medieval plaguey old europe. so i don't mean to say anything about anyplace today

[knox]

"Everyone who disagrees with me is a rapist"----> I never said that in my entire life, so it's just you being dishonest with your arguments as usual. I thought you could do better than make shit up...

Also, I don't give a shit who you admire, what you think a woman should be like, what you think it's the correct way for me to express myself, your stupid lecturing "as a man, this is how I like my feminists" bullshit. It's not about you.

A woman doesn't care what you think of her! Baffling, right?

In fact, I'd be concerned if you liked me because it'd probably mean I'm doing something wrong.

Have a nice life.

[knox]

Originally Posted by keep poppin pimples

you know i was questioning him whether pornmovies may have existed in the middle ages. like medieval plaguey old europe. so i don't mean to say anything about anyplace today

oh, that was to gast because he said "he feels sorry about women in certain countries" not to you, dear.

you're pretty decent and you tell people off when you have to <3

[floatingslowly]

There is no fucking way that I am forced to fear men in the same way that my wife does, when the perves who want to "borrow her phone" (seriously...twice. as if) or learingly chat her up as they choose the seat next to hers, on a near-empty bus. Sure, she's pretty, but pretty isn't a fucking pass.

I'm sorry if you'll pardon me but I'm calling bullshit. I fear neither man nor woman, but not because I'm brave (or stupid)....because by virtue of my penis, I'm spared all but those who already fall below societal standards. those who have been taught that their ill behaviors are cool, wanted, or warranted tend only to prey upon vaginas.

It ain't EVEN the same; not one bit close.

[knox]

Originally Posted by floatingslowly

There is no fucking way that I am forced to fear men in the same way that my wife does, when the perves who want to "borrow her phone" (seriously...twice. as if) or learingly chat her up as they choose the seat next to hers, on a near-empty bus. Sure, she's pretty, but pretty isn't a fucking pass.

I'm sorry if you'll pardon me but I'm calling bullshit. I fear neither man nor woman, not because I'm brave (or stupid), but because by virtue of my penis, I'm spared all but those who already fall below societal standards. those who have been taught that their ill behaviors are cool, wanted, or waranted tend only to prey upon vaginas.

It ain't EVEN the same; not one bit close.

the bus situation is. the. fucking. worst.
there's not enough eye rolling in the world.

[knox]

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2010...alls-whistles/

"Next it will be illegal to look at a woman who is wearing a string for a bikini top." --> said someone.

and this one is from Texas, floaty:


Posted on October 29, 2010 at 8:43pm I’ll tell you why women don’t respect men who give them respect…the feminist movement. “Don’t hold the door for me because I’m a woman, that’s SEXIST…treat me equal…women can do anything a man can do, so we don’t need them…” It’s crap like this that’s ruining our society. Feminists think they can make a baby without a father, think they can go climb the corporate ladder along with the men instead of raising the children, and have completely emasculated the men in our country. And before anyone yells at me, I’m not saying women shouldn’t work or anything like that, I simply mean that the women in our society see staying at home to raise a family as stupid, worthless, as if doing that would keep them from having an identity and would be unfulfilling. I, on the other hand, believe that men and women were created by God to fulfill different roles. We can see this in the physical attributes and the emotional differences men and women have. Men: more muscular, provider, defender. Women: wider hips and more fat for birthing, caregiver, nurturer. Chivalry isn’t completely dead…yet…of course I live in Texas; I’d hate to see how I would be treated in NYC.

[knox]

"I'd hate to see how I'd be treated in NYC"

[Trama]

Originally Posted by knox

I don't have to sit here discussing with men that have no interest in checking their own privilege, listening, being allies, learning, allowing women to express themselves without denial or retaliation. Men who seem more interested in ridiculing a woman for speaking up, dismissing data in order to avoid a healthy debate and making every logical stretch to try and pretend they live in a world in which they have no privilege for being men trying to argue a false equality.

You don't know how it feels because you're sinking in your own privilege.
Just like so many white people do when people talk about racism or rich people do when people talk about poverty.

You like to brag about being more enlightened and respectful than most sexist men, but the knee jerk reaction is exactly the same.

You cannot help the women in your life that way.

I know you like to think you're not sexist and disrespectful towards women, but that's what you're being right now.

It's disappointing and really sad.
I'm not going to waste my time with people who clearly don't care. Unfortunately, it's nothing new, it's just cliche. Hopefully you'll come around one day but I'm not in the mood to be disrespected and patronized right now.

Please, you're not trying to have a discussion.

[floatingslowly]

"Stay home. Make sammiches."

Yeah Texas is full of chivalry. Like when they make you listen to your rapist's unborn baby's heart, just to make sure you don't really want to keep the precious GIFT FROM GOD.

[knox]

There is a video there with a lot of interesting data.
I'm open to a discussion about it.
I think you know for a fact I would have no problem saying it if I wasn't up for it.
If you want to have a discussion based on facts and data, that is.
Let's do it.
I don't even know what your point is anyway... what is it that you're trying to say?

[knox]

Originally Posted by floatingslowly

"Stay home. Make sammiches."

Yeah Texas is full of chivalry. Like when they make you listen to your rapist's unborn baby's heart, just to make sure you don't really want to keep the precious GIFT FROM GOD.

Sounds really disturbing.
In my country, abortion is only legal in cases of rape or if the woman's life is endangered. Even in these cases, it usually takes so long to get the permission, because some judges make sure they wait long enough for it to be illegal. Thousands of women die every year as a consequence of illegal abortion. They also say that's a punishment from God.

[SuchFriendsAreDangerous]

Originally Posted by knox

That is truly the saddest thing I've read in a long time
On so many levels I cannot even begin to describe how insensitive and wrong that is.

The only insensitive fucker here has been you on your hyperbolic tirades and straw-man drive shootings

[knox]

Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous

Is not sexual assault harm to the body?



Really? So sexual assault is when there is harm to the body? Are you sure?
You're the one who said that and also said that the fear of dying is the same as the fear of being raped.
So why is it that so many rape victims commit suicide?
You also compared with... being stabbed.
If I recall correctly, you also said what women go through is the same as what men go through?
Also, I didn't call you names. Nice one.

[SuchFriendsAreDangerous]

Originally Posted by !@#$%!

 

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Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous

 

[knox]

That's what we get to when we can't/don't want to answer the questions, right?

[keep poppin pimples]

in my country people have abortions all the time because why the hell not and it works out pretty well i guess, but lots of americans want to use their money to save us from ourselves

if i ever want to be saved from one thing, it's having to raise a poopmachine because of saving babies that don't think(they're even dumber than me!)

i really just wanna get high all the time and waste some money doing dumb shit and a baby would ruin my life so bad.

my worst nightmare is that by some bizarre set of circumstances i would have to show some classy american lady my boratesque hometown, if i impregnated someone who thought a child would somehow benefit from seeing my natural environment i'd be too embarassed to ever go outside lol

abortions are pretty important and i'm only thinking of my own selfish interests and not thinking at all about the fact that an adult woman is obviously more important than some cells that can't survive without her... the best case scenario for a fetus is that it will eventually resemble the person who you are fucking over so that's pretty damn pointless overall

[knox]

Originally Posted by keep poppin pimples

in my country people have abortions all the time because why the hell not and it works out pretty well i guess, but lots of americans want to use their money to save us from ourselves

if i ever want to be saved from one thing, it's having to raise a poopmachine because of saving babies that don't think(they're even dumber than me!)

i really just wanna get high all the time and waste some money doing dumb shit and a baby would ruin my life so bad.

my worst nightmare is that by some bizarre set of circumstances i would have to show some classy american lady my boratesque hometown, if i impregnated someone who thought a child would somehow benefit from seeing my natural environment i'd be too embarassed to ever go outside lol

abortions are pretty important and i'm only thinking of my own selfish interests and not thinking at all about the fact that an adult woman is obviously more important than some cells that can't survive without her... the best case scenario for a fetus is that it will eventually resemble the person who you are fucking over so that's pretty damn pointless overall

yeah imagine if you had to worry about one of those things growing inside of you because the government thinks your body belongs to them.
or imagine if you did all that and sacrificed a lot and they grew up to ridicule women who complain about things like that, now that'd be embarrassing.

[keep poppin pimples]

Originally Posted by knox

yeah imagine if you had to worry about one of those things growing inside of you because the government thinks your body belongs to them.

i could think about that but it's much easier to make jokes about girls in front of the pub.