Kim Gordon and Thurston Moore Announce Split - Page 8

Alan ciccone · 10.16.2011, 08:58 AM

i feel quite sickened today. Working (with a headcold) on some college work at home and have Sonic Youth playing all the time. Did the obligatory Facebook update with my frustrations about The possible Splitting up of the band and no one cares. Guess it brings home how niche they still are. I remember people moaning online about Amy Winehouse dying earlier this year or the worldwide eulogies for Steve Jobs. Sonic Youth ending is possibly the worst news regarding interests and things I love I can ever remember.

Bal · 10.16.2011, 10:23 AM

shocked.
sad news.
very sad.

E. Noisefield · 10.16.2011, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Genteel Death

Yeah, but would you care to explain why Kim Gordon would be the one who has to leave the band in these ridiculous speculations of yours? Is she a less talented member of it?

Is Kim Less talented than Steve, Lee, and Thurston?

Of course she is. She's wonderful, and she makes the band, but as a musician she's not even in the same game, let alone league, let alone ballpark.
Sorry.

I love her, and worship her, and her voice can bring me to tears, but I've seen them live enough to know that she's not a particularly gifted musician. Her contributions are more aesthetic and thematic and lyrical.

She's not less talented, I guess- but she's not talented in the same way. Thurston, Steve and Lee are all expert, top-shelf musicians- some of the best in the business.

N offense Kim. You're an extraordinarily talented woman. I'm just talking about sheer musical accuracy right now. Your artistic talent knows no bounds.

raycharlescansee · 10.16.2011, 10:53 AM

Horrible news.

floatingslowly · 10.16.2011, 11:40 AM

what kind of pressure must the other two felt to have so many people invested in Kim and Thurston's marriage to support the band.

STEVE: they're yelling again....
LEE: *bites nails*

max · 10.16.2011, 11:41 AM

yes Bal. indeed. and yes Alan. the world is dull.

max · 10.16.2011, 11:42 AM

floating, I think it's the other way around. it's not the marriage that supports the band. it's just it's clear that with both of them maybe not wanting to see each other, I hardly see them rehearsing. but then again, THE RAMONES taught us all something in that regard...

Rob Instigator · 10.16.2011, 12:34 PM

Watchin the ramones live in their last years was fucking horrible. Sloppy muddy no tightness as a band. Like last time I saw motorhead. Fucking mailing it in. SY never hit that bullshit and hopefully never will.

I really don't understand the surprise. If you read the lyrics of the last few lp's
Or thurston's soft folk shit

ann ashtray · 10.16.2011, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by E. Noisefield

Is Kim Less talented than Steve, Lee, and Thurston?

Of course she is. She's wonderful, and she makes the band, but as a musician she's not even in the same game, let alone league, let alone ballpark.
Sorry.

I love her, and worship her, and her voice can bring me to tears, but I've seen them live enough to know that she's not a particularly gifted musician. Her contributions are more aesthetic and thematic and lyrical.

She's not less talented, I guess- but she's not talented in the same way. Thurston, Steve and Lee are all expert, top-shelf musicians- some of the best in the business.

N offense Kim. You're an extraordinarily talented woman. I'm just talking about sheer musical accuracy right now. Your artistic talent knows no bounds.

Aesthetic/thematic/lyrical...all of these concepts are important. Kim adds a key ingredient that could not be replaced. They all do. Each member adds something to the pot and that is what makes them Sonic Youth. Her lyrics are some of the best. And yeah, her bass playing might be simplistic (Thurston's guitar playing might be outrageously creative at times, but seldom is it anything complex. And yes, I tend to prefer "creative" to "complex") but it's an important factor in holding down what the rest of the band is doing. I'm positive not just anyone could come along and do what Kim does. Your comments are a bit unnecessary. Thats fine though, unnecessary posts are often some of my favorites.

ann ashtray · 10.16.2011, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator

I really don't understand the surprise. If you read the lyrics of the last few lp's
Or thurston's soft folk shit

agreed. it was a bit when I first heard the news, but yeah...after actually thinking about it for a bit not so much.

EVOLghost · 10.16.2011, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator

I really don't understand the surprise. If you read the lyrics of the last few lp's
Or thurston's soft folk shit

yeah dood, I listened to Demolished Thoughts...and well..never bothered with it ever again....so I wouldn't know. about his pussy-fest lyrics

noisereductions · 10.16.2011, 01:06 PM

I seriously feel like crying.

Genteel Death · 10.16.2011, 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by E. Noisefield

Is Kim Less talented than Steve, Lee, and Thurston?

Of course she is. She's wonderful, and she makes the band, but as a musician she's not even in the same game, let alone league, let alone ballpark.
Sorry.

I love her, and worship her, and her voice can bring me to tears, but I've seen them live enough to know that she's not a particularly gifted musician. Her contributions are more aesthetic and thematic and lyrical.

She's not less talented, I guess- but she's not talented in the same way. Thurston, Steve and Lee are all expert, top-shelf musicians- some of the best in the business.

N offense Kim. You're an extraordinarily talented woman. I'm just talking about sheer musical accuracy right now. Your artistic talent knows no bounds.

You're an idiot. One of the many idiots they picked up as fans over the years.

RanaldoNecro · 10.16.2011, 02:20 PM

E. Noisefield praised her in several lines. He just said that in one area, she might struggle. That is just a strengths and weaknesses observation.

E.N. also said that 'she makes the band' which is the highest compliment.

What E.N. said was valid.

RanaldoNecro · 10.16.2011, 02:21 PM

Aesthetic/thematic/lyrical...all of these concepts are important. Kim adds a key ingredient that could not be replaced. They all do. Each member adds something to the pot and that is what makes them Sonic Youth

agreed!

HECKLER SPRAY · 10.16.2011, 02:26 PM

The World is in a really bad way...
Let's see what will happen, hope it's not the end of this great band.
Maybe they're going through a bad patch (just like Thurston's folk shit), hope they will stand the test and keep on playing toghether, no matter their split/divorce.
Damn, I didn't expect this shit to happen.

monostereo · 10.16.2011, 02:32 PM

whine whine whine.
don't you belive in progress ?

Genteel Death · 10.16.2011, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by RanaldoNecro

E. Noisefield praised her in several lines. He just said that in one area, she might struggle. That is just a strengths and weaknesses observation.

E.N. also said that 'she makes the band' which is the highest compliment.

What E.N. said was valid.

do women who play music give you a headache or you're just retarded? I think you're just a retard.

jnic · 10.16.2011, 03:29 PM

I for one hope and believe this will not bring the death of Sonic Youth.
There are other married then divorced musicians who have had groups together and make it work. Sam Coomes and Janet Weiss from Portland come to my mind first.
This is shocking news to say the least.

RanaldoNecro · 10.16.2011, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Genteel Death

do women who play music give you a headache or you're just retarded? I think you're just a retard.

Who said this a woman/man issue?

10.16.2011, 08:58 AM	#141
Alan ciccone bad moon rising Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Dublin, Ireland Posts: 124	i feel quite sickened today. Working (with a headcold) on some college work at home and have Sonic Youth playing all the time. Did the obligatory Facebook update with my frustrations about The possible Splitting up of the band and no one cares. Guess it brings home how niche they still are. I remember people moaning online about Amy Winehouse dying earlier this year or the worldwide eulogies for Steve Jobs. Sonic Youth ending is possibly the worst news regarding interests and things I love I can ever remember.
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10.16.2011, 10:23 AM	#142
Bal the end of the ugly Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Budapest city Posts: 1,011	shocked. sad news. very sad. __________________
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10.16.2011, 10:53 AM	#144
raycharlescansee little trouble girl Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 51	Horrible news. __________________ He who gives up essential liberty for a little security deserves neither liberty nor security. - Benjamin Franklin
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10.16.2011, 11:40 AM	#145
floatingslowly invito al cielo Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 21,165	what kind of pressure must the other two felt to have so many people invested in Kim and Thurston's marriage to support the band. STEVE: they're yelling again.... LEE: bites nails
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10.16.2011, 11:41 AM	#146
max expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: sardinia, italy Posts: 1,262	yes Bal. indeed. and yes Alan. the world is dull. __________________ A Dance Of Shadows - Kingdom Of Night
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10.16.2011, 11:42 AM	#147
max expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: sardinia, italy Posts: 1,262	floating, I think it's the other way around. it's not the marriage that supports the band. it's just it's clear that with both of them maybe not wanting to see each other, I hardly see them rehearsing. but then again, THE RAMONES taught us all something in that regard... __________________ A Dance Of Shadows - Kingdom Of Night
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10.16.2011, 12:34 PM	#148
Rob Instigator invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: In the land of the Instigator Posts: 27,960	Watchin the ramones live in their last years was fucking horrible. Sloppy muddy no tightness as a band. Like last time I saw motorhead. Fucking mailing it in. SY never hit that bullshit and hopefully never will. I really don't understand the surprise. If you read the lyrics of the last few lp's Or thurston's soft folk shit __________________ RXTT's Intellectual Journey - my new blog where I talk about all the books I read.
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10.16.2011, 01:06 PM	#152
noisereductions invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: New England, USA Posts: 16,210	I seriously feel like crying. __________________ noisereduxinstalled.weebly.com
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10.16.2011, 02:20 PM	#154
RanaldoNecro expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Eye Of The Squirrel Posts: 1,481	E. Noisefield praised her in several lines. He just said that in one area, she might struggle. That is just a strengths and weaknesses observation. E.N. also said that 'she makes the band' which is the highest compliment. What E.N. said was valid. __________________ He is not Alone
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10.16.2011, 02:21 PM	#155
RanaldoNecro expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Eye Of The Squirrel Posts: 1,481	Aesthetic/thematic/lyrical...all of these concepts are important. Kim adds a key ingredient that could not be replaced. They all do. Each member adds something to the pot and that is what makes them Sonic Youth agreed! __________________ He is not Alone
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10.16.2011, 02:26 PM	#156
HECKLER SPRAY invito al cielo Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Near Paris, France Posts: 3,762	The World is in a really bad way... Let's see what will happen, hope it's not the end of this great band. Maybe they're going through a bad patch (just like Thurston's folk shit), hope they will stand the test and keep on playing toghether, no matter their split/divorce. Damn, I didn't expect this shit to happen. __________________
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10.16.2011, 02:32 PM	#157
monostereo empty page Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: europe Posts: 13	whine whine whine. don't you belive in progress ?
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10.16.2011, 03:29 PM	#159
jnic little trouble girl Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: nYc Posts: 77	I for one hope and believe this will not bring the death of Sonic Youth. There are other married then divorced musicians who have had groups together and make it work. Sam Coomes and Janet Weiss from Portland come to my mind first. This is shocking news to say the least.
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