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Wow. What is that? Haha.


I did love Dark Knight too btw.

[Severian]

Holy shit there's tots on that poster! What kind of magical place is this thing from?! (Not Katy Perry tots, but tots are tots.)

[tw2113]

I'm sold on Blood Car. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0780485/

Bonus points for Anna "My Girl" Chlumsky having a part too.

[!@#$%!]

it was imaginative, cheaply done (really cheaply done), poorly acted (but it works great), resourceful, hilarious, absurd... and great. a bastard child of early john waters circa 2007 (so it goes with the times). very funny, very indie/ultra-low-budget, like a movie you could make with your friends if everyone could get their shit together. check it out. 4/5.

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Anna looks good too.

[Severian]

Originally Posted by noisereductions

Anna looks good too.

She has been looking good on VEEP for the past six years.

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Never seen it. Didnt even know she was still acting.

[Severian]

Originally Posted by noisereductions

Never seen it. Didnt even know she was still acting.

Great show. Seriously. Deserves the hype. Funny in a "nobody has a soul" kind of way, which makes it a great spiritual successor to Seinfeld. And Julia Louis Dreyfus is just a freaking delight.

It's up there with Silicon Valley as one of the best and ridiculously funny shows of this era.

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I just dont spend much time watching tv. It was last year I fiinally saw Curb Your Enthusiasm for instance. I like shows but allocate very little of my time for tv.

[Rob Instigator]

Inception was a boring, slow movie full of old tired, rehash ideas about subconscious that are actually outdated and irrelevant. stupid fucking movie.

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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator

Inception was a boring, slow movie full of old tired, rehash ideas about subconscious that are actually outdated and irrelevant. stupid fucking movie.

this is kind of how I felt, except less harsh. Y'all know Rob is coldblooded.

But yeah there are a lot of movies out there I haven't seen yet, and others I'd like to see again. Inception is not on my list of stuff I feel like I should watch again to see if I changed my mind. I'm all set.

[Rob Instigator]

Inception should have been titled "DiCaprio is far too short to believably play a movie leading man, ever.....ever...."

[ilduclo]

and Ellen Page and JG Levitt are not believable in any role so far (except 3rd Rock from the Sun for JG)

[Severian]

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator

Inception was a boring, slow movie full of old tired, rehash ideas about subconscious that are actually outdated and irrelevant. stupid fucking movie.

The worst part about having an education based in neuroscience is that I have to listen to people with an introductory knowledge of psychology wax pedantic about how "irrelevant" psychodynamic theory is. We all know the these pop-psych models of dreams and the subconscious are absurd, but that's not what Inception is really "about," and I think by focusing on the scientific "relevance" of the overt and flag-wavingly fantastical elements of the movie, you're kind of missing the entire point.

Inception is less about the subconscious than it is about ... movies. Seriously. The film draws a self-aware parallel between the experience of watching a film and the experience of dreaming. There are studies that have found neurological similarities between the two (pre-frontal cortex quiets down, visual cortex flares up, acetylcholine pumps). There's no question that Inception explores patently unfounded psychodynamic concepts, but ... so what? It can do that. It's a thriller, not a theory. In fact I think the entire movie is a dream (this is kind of obvious, though), so forget about the relevance of the pseudo-science ad take it for what it is: a movie whose concept is to mimic the experience of dreaming that happens to be about dreams (movies).

Finally, if there's any area of modern neuroscience or scientific philosophy that Inception actually tackles, I think it's "p- and a-" concepts of consciousness. Phenomenal (experiential) and access (propositional) consciousness. Imagine the characters are operating under the impression that they can detach from and mix and mesh these states at will, which is why they're Dream spies or whatever... but they can't. And the deeper "levels" in the film are actually closer to the surface, showing them how little control they have over anything. Mal asks Leo what he thinks is really happening at one point, and suggests that their fantasy life is real, and he's like "nah you're crazy *tears* I'm a dreamspy and stuff!" and then things get wrapped up, and it appears he's right until the top spins (leaving us with a very "Blade Runner: Director's cut" kind of existential cliffhanger).

To argue that the science IN the movie is "irrelevant" is to miss the point that the movie is designed to feel like a dream, so ... who gives a shit how sciencey the science is? There's a whole world of other, more interesting things to focus on in the movie.

I don't think it's conceptually brilliant, but I do think it's captivating and REALLY fun, and visually, just, wowza.

[Severian]

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator

Inception should have been titled "DiCaprio is far too short to believably play a movie leading man, ever.....ever...."

Is he short? I didn't know he was short. If Tom Cruise can do it Leo can. I'm not a huge fan of his, but I think he's growing into a pretty solid actor who's proven that he can play a leading man (when was the last time he played anything OTHER than a leading man?) that people really love it. He was good in Wolf of Wall Street. He can hold his own.

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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator

Inception should have been titled "DiCaprio is far too short to believably play a movie leading man, ever.....ever...."

ugh I hate when you do this. "DiCaprio is too short to be a movie star," "that band sucks cuz the guy singing is fat," etc. I'm actually quite a fan of DiCaprio in general.

[Severian]

Originally Posted by ilduclo

and Ellen Page and JG Levitt are not believable in any role so far (except 3rd Rock from the Sun for JG)

Ok, yeah, kinda. I still like Joseph Gordon Levitt though.

I think he was most believable in that Judd Apatow-y movie 50/50, where he plays a nerdy, quiet nice kid who gets some terrible kind of cancer. Ever seen that? It's pretty good. Probably his best performance.

Anyway I think a lot of people missed the entire point of Inception. It was supposed to make you go "ooooh, ahhh, really? Coool," and it did that.

[Severian]

Originally Posted by ilduclo

and Ellen Page and JG Levitt are not believable in any role so far (except 3rd Rock from the Sun for JG)

Ok, yeah, kinda. I still like Joseph Gordon Levitt though.

I think he was most believable in that Judd Apatow-y movie 50/50, where he plays a nerdy, quiet nice kid who gets some terrible kind of cancer. Ever seen that? It's pretty good. Probably his best performance.

Anyway I think a lot of people missed the entire point of Inception. It was supposed to make you go "ooooh, ahhh, really? Coool," and it did that.

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Originally Posted by noisereductions

ugh I hate when you do this. "DiCaprio is too short to be a movie star," "that band sucks cuz the guy singing is fat," etc. I'm actually quite a fan of DiCaprio in general.

Yeah, I love Rob, but this stuff is disappointing. Remember "Kanye's teeth are too big for him to get his lips around so he can't rap"??

Also, hey Rob... how BOTNS coming?

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yeah, usually when Rob resorts to insulting peoples' physical appearances and draws some parallel to their talent... I lose interest in the conversation.

Not a diss, Rob. Just saying.