Question for Experimental Jet Set, Trash, and No Star Lovers

jframe · 09.10.2015, 10:42 PM

Please disregard this thread if you are not absolutely in love with Experimental Jet Set, Trash, and No Star.

When I was a teenager my sister somehow got a hold of this album and when she played it, it absolutely blew me away.

A year or so ago I decided that my life would obviously be better if I added some more Sonic Youth to it. So I picked up two albums: Daydream Nation and Dirty.

However, after listening numerous times to ensure I've given them a decent chance, I didn't like a damn song on either of those albums.

So that brings me here, to ask you for your help. Where can I find the magic of Experimental Jet Set, Trash, and No Star? Does that magic exist on any of the other Sonic Youth albums, or did Sonic Youth just decide to cram it all on that particular album?

Thanks!

SuchFriendsAreDangerous · 09.10.2015, 11:07 PM

You're trolling us right? A thread about the universally least liked SY album and saying you didn't like a single song from one of the universally recognized best SY albums and another definitely great one? ill admit that recently i reassessed EJSTNS and i realized its better than i ever thought, i almost ranked it above Goo once.... but really??

jframe · 09.10.2015, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous

You're trolling us right? A thread about the universally least liked SY album and saying you didn't like a single song from one of the universally recognized best SY albums and another definitely great one? ill admit that recently i reassessed EJSTNS and i realized its better than i ever thought, i almost ranked it above Goo once.... but really??

Thanks for the feedback but I'd prefer to hear from someone with (apparently oddball) tastes more similar to my own.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous · 09.11.2015, 12:24 AM

Toilet & Bowels · 09.11.2015, 02:17 AM

You might find something of interest on Washing Machine or maybe Made in USA but ExpJetSet's style is kind of unique in the SY catalogue. I love ExpJetSet, and think it gets an unfair rap, it's a beautiful and unusual record. Rather Ripped is clearly SY's worst album, and by a long way.

Toilet & Bowels · 09.11.2015, 02:28 AM

Also maybe their self titled album (as in check it out, it's awesome and also kind of different to SY's other stuff)

Mortte Jousimo · 09.11.2015, 06:59 AM

Well, I love both experimental & RR even Experimental is the least favourite also to me. I think you should try GOO, RR & Eternal because along with experimental, DDN & Dirty they´re most straightforward SY-records. But of course it´s possible you don´t like those too.

Mortte Jousimo · 09.11.2015, 07:04 AM

Well, Nurse also didn´t have much more experimentalism as experimental. And of course Sister rocks as hell!

Chris Lawrence · 09.11.2015, 11:26 AM

Try Thurston's Psychic Hearts album from the same era/studio.

greenlight · 09.11.2015, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by jframe

Please disregard this thread if you are not absolutely in love with Experimental Jet Set, Trash, and No Star.

When I was a teenager my sister somehow got a hold of this album and when she played it, it absolutely blew me away.

A year or so ago I decided that my life would obviously be better if I added some more Sonic Youth to it. So I picked up two albums: Daydream Nation and Dirty.

However, after listening numerous times to ensure I've given them a decent chance, I didn't like a damn song on either of those albums.

So that brings me here, to ask you for your help. Where can I find the magic of Experimental Jet Set, Trash, and No Star? Does that magic exist on any of the other Sonic Youth albums, or did Sonic Youth just decide to cram it all on that particular album?

Thanks!

do you have EJSTANS demos?
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Originally Posted by Chris Lawrence

Try Thurston's Psychic Hearts album from the same era/studio.

Rob Instigator · 09.11.2015, 02:49 PM

It takes all kinds.....

Toilet & Bowels · 09.11.2015, 04:36 PM

Toilet & Bowels · 09.11.2015, 06:18 PM

Psychic Hearts sounds like one third of an SY album

SuchFriendsAreDangerous · 09.11.2015, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by pepper_green

Rather Ripped is also a killer album. fuck 'em. if it came out in the late 80's people would love it. cliché saying, I know. it's not them evolving or going backwards, it's just SY. sweet sliding grooves on that one too.

highlights: Jams Run Free, Pink Steam. c'mon.

Rather Ripped is a kick ass record and fun tour

Mortte Jousimo · 09.12.2015, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by pepper_green

Psychic Hearts is not a bad album. it's got some good grooves on there.

Yea, Psychic is ok album.

Toilet & Bowels · 09.12.2015, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by pepper_green

btw,

with all the other great tracks you posted, did you forget to add "Sympathy for the Strawberry" by accident or something?

no harm!,............ just saying everyone should check out this track too.

No I didn't forget it, I thought about including it but then decided it might be a bit jammy and sprawling considering (what I imagine to be) the OPs tastes.

Toilet & Bowels · 09.12.2015, 07:27 PM

Psychic Hearts isn't that bad, it just isn't that good either

Mortte Jousimo · 09.13.2015, 01:53 AM

Well, I think like Chris if someone likes Experimental, he might like Psychic even it´s not as great as Experimental. Also if one likes the sounds of Experimental, he might like Sister because they are made in the same studio and have quite same sounds (RR also, but I think it´s sounds are more modern).

The songs you Toilet put here are of course really great, but many of them have quite different vibes as in Experimental.

hirsute_biped · 09.13.2015, 11:12 AM

Maybe NYC Ghosts & Flowers, as it is also a strange detour of an album like Jet Set is, though it is very different from Jet Set.

selkcip · 09.13.2015, 06:11 PM

exp jet set is one of my favorites as well.. i would suggest washing machine and a thousand leaves, though neither of those albums are so packed with details as EJSTNS is.. the songs are more long-form, but there are similar vibes here and there. check "no queen blues," "saucer like," and the title track from washing machine.

a thousand leaves is possibly 'softer', but it contains a lot of raw, weird and delicate elements.. it's a beautiful, inconsistent recording. there's variety to it.

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jframe empty page Join Date: Sep 2015 Posts: 7	Please disregard this thread if you are not absolutely in love with Experimental Jet Set, Trash, and No Star. When I was a teenager my sister somehow got a hold of this album and when she played it, it absolutely blew me away. A year or so ago I decided that my life would obviously be better if I added some more Sonic Youth to it. So I picked up two albums: Daydream Nation and Dirty. However, after listening numerous times to ensure I've given them a decent chance, I didn't like a damn song on either of those albums. So that brings me here, to ask you for your help. Where can I find the magic of Experimental Jet Set, Trash, and No Star? Does that magic exist on any of the other Sonic Youth albums, or did Sonic Youth just decide to cram it all on that particular album? Thanks!
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Toilet & Bowels invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northern Europe Posts: 12,262	You might find something of interest on Washing Machine or maybe Made in USA but ExpJetSet's style is kind of unique in the SY catalogue. I love ExpJetSet, and think it gets an unfair rap, it's a beautiful and unusual record. Rather Ripped is clearly SY's worst album, and by a long way.
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Toilet & Bowels invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northern Europe Posts: 12,262	Also maybe their self titled album (as in check it out, it's awesome and also kind of different to SY's other stuff)
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Mortte Jousimo expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 2,019	Well, I love both experimental & RR even Experimental is the least favourite also to me. I think you should try GOO, RR & Eternal because along with experimental, DDN & Dirty they´re most straightforward SY-records. But of course it´s possible you don´t like those too.
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Mortte Jousimo expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 2,019	Well, Nurse also didn´t have much more experimentalism as experimental. And of course Sister rocks as hell!
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09.11.2015, 04:36 PM	#12
Toilet & Bowels invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northern Europe Posts: 12,262	See what you think of these songs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpH-LVah8Sk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r66hAbGi0ys https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWpbFoEUV24 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TuRYoBEOMHI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXRTZwiazK8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azmC-g4eiC4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E881lSVEpc4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ja2zGbz85hE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQvf5NQY7l8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2N7gBXfykU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AU0IiziwvAA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_mN6_PRC1M
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Toilet & Bowels invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northern Europe Posts: 12,262	Psychic Hearts sounds like one third of an SY album
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Toilet & Bowels invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northern Europe Posts: 12,262	Psychic Hearts isn't that bad, it just isn't that good either
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09.13.2015, 01:53 AM	#18
Mortte Jousimo expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 2,019	Well, I think like Chris if someone likes Experimental, he might like Psychic even it´s not as great as Experimental. Also if one likes the sounds of Experimental, he might like Sister because they are made in the same studio and have quite same sounds (RR also, but I think it´s sounds are more modern). The songs you Toilet put here are of course really great, but many of them have quite different vibes as in Experimental.
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hirsute_biped the end of the ugly Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Manta Sonica, California Posts: 1,169	Maybe NYC Ghosts & Flowers, as it is also a strange detour of an album like Jet Set is, though it is very different from Jet Set.
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selkcip bad moon rising Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 197	exp jet set is one of my favorites as well.. i would suggest washing machine and a thousand leaves, though neither of those albums are so packed with details as EJSTNS is.. the songs are more long-form, but there are similar vibes here and there. check "no queen blues," "saucer like," and the title track from washing machine. a thousand leaves is possibly 'softer', but it contains a lot of raw, weird and delicate elements.. it's a beautiful, inconsistent recording. there's variety to it.
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