Henry Miller - No fan of new york

Rob Instigator · 06.02.2009, 12:55 PM

"gets worse all the time."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swzQP...layer_embedded

gualbert · 06.02.2009, 01:03 PM

!!
I thought it was the greatest, coolest city of the world!

demonrail666 · 06.02.2009, 01:06 PM

I don't know when that was filmed but it looks almost like a studio mock up of the city about a hundred years ago.

Tokolosh · 06.02.2009, 01:09 PM

As if Paris was/is any different...
Cool vid.

demonrail666 · 06.02.2009, 01:14 PM

When you're from somewhere, you have a strangely distorted view of a place.

Rob Instigator · 06.02.2009, 01:15 PM

I love hearing old men cuss it up.

henry miller, even in his disgust at NYC, is probably even more disgusted by the mainstream spectacle times square has become.

gualbert · 06.02.2009, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by demonrail666

When you're from somewhere, you have a strangely distorted view of a place.

And when you live thousands of kms away, you know all about it?
haha!

demonrail666 · 06.02.2009, 01:18 PM

Times Square was obviously my biggest disappointment when i visited NY. Although i did know that it was crap before I went. On the whole though I loved the place.

Rob Instigator · 06.02.2009, 01:20 PM

I will be there next week tuesday and wednesday, or is it wednesday and thursday? cannot remember.

yay!

road trip begins on saturday!!!!!!!!!

demonrail666 · 06.02.2009, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by gualbert

And when you live thousands of kms away, you know all about it?
haha!

Not at all. Distorted was probably the wrong word. What i meant was that someone who grows up in a place has a very intimate understanding of it that people who haven't might not relate to.

gualbert · 06.02.2009, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Tokolosh

As if Paris was/is any different...
Cool vid.

Paris is ten times smaller, that's quite a difference.
(but it's an horrible place, it may be a similarity)

gmku · 06.02.2009, 01:22 PM

Tropic of Cancer. Great book.

Tokolosh · 06.02.2009, 01:22 PM

Sounds like he wasn't getting laid much at the end.

Quote:

Originally Posted by gualbert

Paris is ten times smaller, that's quite a difference.
(but it's an horrible place, it may be a similarity)

Paris is horrible, in a good way.

demonrail666 · 06.02.2009, 01:24 PM

I have to admit that Henry miller is one author I've never been able to get into. I read Capricorn and Cancer but just didn't see it at all. I should give him another go. I read them when I was about 16, which may have been a bit young.

gualbert · 06.02.2009, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by demonrail666

Not at all. Distorted was probably the wrong word. What i meant was that someone who grows up in a place has a very intimate understanding of it that people who haven't might not relate to.

Ok.You meant "subjective".

demonrail666 · 06.02.2009, 01:27 PM

Yeah, but 'subjective' sounds a bit too dismissive (although admittedly not as bad as 'distorted'). Intimate suggests a more deeper understanding.

the ikara cult · 06.02.2009, 01:55 PM

tropic of cancer wasnt as enjoyable as id been led to believe

Glice · 06.02.2009, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by demonrail666

I have to admit that Henry miller is one author I've never been able to get into. I read Capricorn and Cancer but just didn't see it at all. I should give him another go. I read them when I was about 16, which may have been a bit young.

From you, this astonishes me. Miller, I maintain, was like the beats but had a much firmer grip on his subservience to better writers. By which I mean he dicks about with stream of consciousness but doesn't quite turn into the mawkish terror that is Kerouac. He talks like a snake-oil charmer but is just Jewish enough to get away with it - sorry, Burroughs acolytes. Also, he's a bit of a pathetic character, something I've always found lacking from a lot of American writers - someone like Easton-Ellis always heads towards this pseudo-nihilism that just galls.

Ok, so I've just insulted most of your taste in books, but a lot of you really need to stop reading like a 19-year-old.

Rob Instigator · 06.02.2009, 02:26 PM

burroughs is boring

afterthefact · 06.02.2009, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by demonrail666

I have to admit that Henry miller is one author I've never been able to get into. I read Capricorn and Cancer but just didn't see it at all. I should give him another go. I read them when I was about 16, which may have been a bit young.

I read Tropics Of Cancer and loved it.

I read Colossus Of Maroussi and couldn't even finish it.

Either I'm a perv, or he is just hit or miss with me.

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demonrail666 invito al cielo Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 18,510	I have to admit that Henry miller is one author I've never been able to get into. I read Capricorn and Cancer but just didn't see it at all. I should give him another go. I read them when I was about 16, which may have been a bit young.
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demonrail666 invito al cielo Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 18,510	Yeah, but 'subjective' sounds a bit too dismissive (although admittedly not as bad as 'distorted'). Intimate suggests a more deeper understanding.
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