hold that tiger.

qprogeny79 · 07.25.2006, 10:33 PM

hey, i just got hold that tiger today and i'm wondering what the japanese writing on the cover says. i'm teaching myself japanese, and from what i can read it is pronounced something like "poku no hahaha kahimono niyuki mashita." (i may have some of the the spacing wrong.) what confuses me is that it's written in katakana, which i thought were reserved for imported words, and if my transliteration is correct that definitely sounds like native japanese vocabulary. any japanese speakers here who can clear that up?

touch me i'm sick · 07.25.2006, 10:36 PM

fuck i used to take japanese, but now all i can say are "how much are those black shoes" , and "the post office is over there"

acousticrock87 · 07.25.2006, 10:41 PM

I know a tiny bit, but more importantly I know how to use my Kanji dictionary quite well. I'll look it up though cause I don't have the CD.

Edit: If anyone could get a bigger picture of it, I could get it. The sentence structure looks basic, and it looks like there's furigana next to the kanji anyway.

acousticrock87 · 07.25.2006, 11:08 PM

Boku no haha ni kaimono ikimashita.

My mother went shopping?

qprogeny79 · 07.25.2006, 11:26 PM

furigana -- so that's what they're called. i can't read kanji so i was using those for reference.

here's the biggest one i could find on google. maybe you could save it and blow it up?

acousticrock87 · 07.25.2006, 11:28 PM

Ya I can't read kanji either. Maybe 30 or so of them, but there are a good 2000+ that you have to learn to be considered fluent. Can you read and transcribe the furigana, though? They're way too small to see. I could get it that way for sure. I'm almost positive it says "My mother went shopping" though.

Hip Priest · 07.26.2006, 03:05 AM

My sources concur with acousticrock87.

fishmonkey · 07.26.2006, 04:51 AM

its writen in ancient opaic japaneese, from the ancinet rammadh monks who used to actually breed tigers and train them for the first few years of their lives... this section of text comes from the general "slopping out" procedure where the tiger would have a big shit and one monk would communicate the one sentence in two seperate languages... so the first half is

"Hold that Tiger......."
and its japaneese second half actually translates as "while i wipe its arse"

sonicl · 07.26.2006, 04:55 AM

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Originally Posted by fishmonkey

its writen in ancient opaic japaneese, from the ancinet rammadh monks who used to actually breed tigers and train them for the first few years of their lives... this section of text comes from the general "slopping out" procedure where the tiger would have a big shit and one monk would communicate the one sentence in two seperate languages... so the first half is

"Hold that Tiger......."
and its japaneese second half actually translates as "while i wipe its arse"

Nice one!

lovesonicevol · 07.26.2006, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by fishmonkey

its writen in ancient opaic japaneese, from the ancinet rammadh monks who used to actually breed tigers and train them for the first few years of their lives... this section of text comes from the general "slopping out" procedure where the tiger would have a big shit and one monk would communicate the one sentence in two seperate languages... so the first half is

"Hold that Tiger......."
and its japaneese second half actually translates as "while i wipe its arse"

That's hilarious. SY is the only band that would have that on a cover. I really want to buy it.

fishmonkey · 07.26.2006, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by lovesonicevol

That's hilarious. SY is the only band that would have that on a cover. I really want to buy it.

i was joking. i havent a clue what it means.

gmku · 07.26.2006, 11:58 AM

Somebody told me it means, Your mother has gone shopping.

Also, supposedly, the cover photo is not of Thurston and Kim, as one might suppose at a quick glance but of members of Pussy Galore. (?) Has anybody heard anything about that? When somebody told me that, I took a closer look, and it really doesn't look like Thurston and Kim. But I'm not real sure what the people in Pussy Galore look like.

lovesonicevol · 07.26.2006, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by fishmonkey

i was joking. i havent a clue what it means.

Shit I really thought it was true becuz My mother went shopping didn't seem right. Haha I actually believed you. I thought, "Where the hell would he learn this?" Fooled me................

scott v · 07.26.2006, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by gmku

Somebody told me it means, Your mother has gone shopping.

Also, supposedly, the cover photo is not of Thurston and Kim, as one might suppose at a quick glance but of members of Pussy Galore. (?) Has anybody heard anything about that? When somebody told me that, I took a closer look, and it really doesn't look like Thurston and Kim. But I'm not real sure what the people in Pussy Galore look like.

My guess is that its Bob Bert and Julie Cafritz... i'm actually pretty sure of that.

soniknirve · 07.26.2006, 01:05 PM

here's a larger pic if you guys need it...

gmku · 07.26.2006, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by scott v

My guess is that its Bob Bert and Julie Cafritz... i'm actually pretty sure of that.

Okay. Pussy Galore drummer and guitarist, respectively.

Bob did a lot of things on the early SY albums, too, didn't he?

acousticrock87 · 07.26.2006, 09:20 PM

I can see the resemblance to Thurston, with the hair, but that doesn't look anything like Kim. Bob Bert played the drums on CiS and BMR, though.

"Boku (I, masculine) no ('s) haha (mom) wa (subject marker for mom) kaimono (shopping) ni (at) yukimashita (go, past tense)." So "My mom went at shopping." I'm assuming they just always use "at" with that word. I don't know.

Chris Lawrence · 07.26.2006, 11:33 PM

definitely bob and julie.

qprogeny79 · 08.14.2006, 07:58 PM

ok, as long as we're on the japanese topic here's another question. what does the japanese sy avatar say? i got it down to "hisuteriwwa komiwwasu" but either a) the english got so whacked when it was given a japanese pronunciation as to be totally unrecognizable, b) it's native japanese (which would be odd since, again, it's written in katakana), and/or c) i fucked up the transliteration (those "wa"s might be "fu"s, and the "w"s might be "tsu"s or even "shi"s, though i think i have those right since they look like the small, double-letter-making "tsu"s). any guesses?

acousticrock87 · 08.14.2006, 09:03 PM

It's definitely English. Hisuterikku Komikkusu. Only thing you did was translate the ku's as wa's. Katakana is actually very hard to read at first because they all look similar. I can read them, but I have a hard time recalling them all like I can with hiragana.

The u's are almost always silent in foreign words like that - and even in normal Japanese, for that matter. So it would be pronounced something like Histerik Komiks, and Hysteric Comics is all I can think of it meaning. Has to be. But I don't know what that is.

07.25.2006, 10:33 PM	#1
qprogeny79 stalker Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: newport news/charlottesville, va, usa. Posts: 508	hey, i just got hold that tiger today and i'm wondering what the japanese writing on the cover says. i'm teaching myself japanese, and from what i can read it is pronounced something like "poku no hahaha kahimono niyuki mashita." (i may have some of the the spacing wrong.) what confuses me is that it's written in katakana, which i thought were reserved for imported words, and if my transliteration is correct that definitely sounds like native japanese vocabulary. any japanese speakers here who can clear that up? __________________ obligatory intellectual quote: "all men by nature desire to know." --aristotle obligatory myspace page link. obligatory myspace band page link.
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07.25.2006, 10:36 PM	#2
touch me i'm sick expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 1,936	fuck i used to take japanese, but now all i can say are "how much are those black shoes" , and "the post office is over there"
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07.25.2006, 10:41 PM	#3
acousticrock87 invito al cielo Join Date: May 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 5,515	I know a tiny bit, but more importantly I know how to use my Kanji dictionary quite well. I'll look it up though cause I don't have the CD. Edit: If anyone could get a bigger picture of it, I could get it. The sentence structure looks basic, and it looks like there's furigana next to the kanji anyway.
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07.25.2006, 11:08 PM	#4
acousticrock87 invito al cielo Join Date: May 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 5,515	Boku no haha ni kaimono ikimashita. My mother went shopping?
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07.25.2006, 11:26 PM	#5
qprogeny79 stalker Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: newport news/charlottesville, va, usa. Posts: 508	furigana -- so that's what they're called. i can't read kanji so i was using those for reference. here's the biggest one i could find on google. maybe you could save it and blow it up? __________________ obligatory intellectual quote: "all men by nature desire to know." --aristotle obligatory myspace page link. obligatory myspace band page link.
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07.25.2006, 11:28 PM	#6
acousticrock87 invito al cielo Join Date: May 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 5,515	Ya I can't read kanji either. Maybe 30 or so of them, but there are a good 2000+ that you have to learn to be considered fluent. Can you read and transcribe the furigana, though? They're way too small to see. I could get it that way for sure. I'm almost positive it says "My mother went shopping" though.
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07.26.2006, 03:05 AM	#7
Hip Priest invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Birkenhead Posts: 9,397	My sources concur with acousticrock87. __________________ Abhor that which is evil; cleave to that which is good. http://www.flickr.com/photos/outsidethecamp/
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07.26.2006, 04:51 AM	#8
fishmonkey invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Ireland Posts: 2,670	its writen in ancient opaic japaneese, from the ancinet rammadh monks who used to actually breed tigers and train them for the first few years of their lives... this section of text comes from the general "slopping out" procedure where the tiger would have a big shit and one monk would communicate the one sentence in two seperate languages... so the first half is "Hold that Tiger......." and its japaneese second half actually translates as "while i wipe its arse" __________________ "Pescescimmia ha grandi bulbi oculari blu, ognuno attaccato su un lato della sua testa, in modo tale da risucire a guardare indietro senza girare la sua testa pesciosa"
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07.26.2006, 11:58 AM	#12
gmku invito al cielo Join Date: May 2006 Location: Oxford, England Posts: 15,225	Somebody told me it means, Your mother has gone shopping. Also, supposedly, the cover photo is not of Thurston and Kim, as one might suppose at a quick glance but of members of Pussy Galore. (?) Has anybody heard anything about that? When somebody told me that, I took a closer look, and it really doesn't look like Thurston and Kim. But I'm not real sure what the people in Pussy Galore look like.
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07.26.2006, 01:05 PM	#15
soniknirve the destroyed room Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 686	here's a larger pic if you guys need it...
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07.26.2006, 09:20 PM	#17
acousticrock87 invito al cielo Join Date: May 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 5,515	I can see the resemblance to Thurston, with the hair, but that doesn't look anything like Kim. Bob Bert played the drums on CiS and BMR, though. "Boku (I, masculine) no ('s) haha (mom) wa (subject marker for mom) kaimono (shopping) ni (at) yukimashita (go, past tense)." So "My mom went at shopping." I'm assuming they just always use "at" with that word. I don't know.
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07.26.2006, 11:33 PM	#18
Chris Lawrence Moderator Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: southwest canada Posts: 1,889	definitely bob and julie.
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08.14.2006, 07:58 PM	#19
qprogeny79 stalker Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: newport news/charlottesville, va, usa. Posts: 508	ok, as long as we're on the japanese topic here's another question. what does the japanese sy avatar say? i got it down to "hisuteriwwa komiwwasu" but either a) the english got so whacked when it was given a japanese pronunciation as to be totally unrecognizable, b) it's native japanese (which would be odd since, again, it's written in katakana), and/or c) i fucked up the transliteration (those "wa"s might be "fu"s, and the "w"s might be "tsu"s or even "shi"s, though i think i have those right since they look like the small, double-letter-making "tsu"s). any guesses? __________________ obligatory intellectual quote: "all men by nature desire to know." --aristotle obligatory myspace page link. obligatory myspace band page link.
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08.14.2006, 09:03 PM	#20
acousticrock87 invito al cielo Join Date: May 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 5,515	It's definitely English. Hisuterikku Komikkusu. Only thing you did was translate the ku's as wa's. Katakana is actually very hard to read at first because they all look similar. I can read them, but I have a hard time recalling them all like I can with hiragana. The u's are almost always silent in foreign words like that - and even in normal Japanese, for that matter. So it would be pronounced something like Histerik Komiks, and Hysteric Comics is all I can think of it meaning. Has to be. But I don't know what that is.
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