What if Brian Jones hadn't died?

gmku · 12.14.2006, 01:27 AM

What if the other Rolling Stones hadn't murdered him? Would we have Let It Bleed, Sticky Fingers, and Exile? Or would we have them but they'd be filled with sitar and other wild things? Would the Stones sound like the Brian Jonestown Massacre?

Under Brian's influence, maybe Keith would have stayed off junk and become an acid head instead. Maybe Mick would have been less of a socialite. Maybe Brown Sugar would have an Indian raga break instead of a sax solo.

Your thoughts?

Cantankerous · 12.14.2006, 01:31 AM

the only good thing that would come of him being alive is the fact that the stones would have broken up years ago as they should have.
if brian had been around keith would still have been on the brown. mick would still have been a prissy bitch. brown sugar would have sucked.

Everyneurotic · 12.14.2006, 01:31 AM

we might have had them but they would sound different, although my real guess is that he would have quit the stones and then form another band or gone solo and, depending on his level of ego-centritcness and number of yesmen he surrounded himself with, be either great or incredibly bad.

Cantankerous · 12.14.2006, 01:32 AM

my guess is that he would have left anyway and gone off and done some flowery psychedelic bullshit. and just for the record, keith was doing smack when brian was still in the band.

TheMadcapLaughs · 12.14.2006, 01:34 AM

Fools, he was already kicked out of the group when he drowned/was killed/died/whatever, nothing would have changed at all!

Everyneurotic · 12.14.2006, 01:35 AM

what if mick had gone solo in 1969?

gmku · 12.14.2006, 01:35 AM

These are interesting theories. At least to me.

I'd like to hear something really absurd and unfounded, though. Anyone?

Cantankerous · 12.14.2006, 01:37 AM

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Originally Posted by TheMadcapLaughs

Fools, he was already kicked out of the group when he drowned/was killed/died/whatever, nothing would have changed at all!

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Originally Posted by gmku

What if the other Rolling Stones hadn't murdered him?

this statement seems to entail that the stones alienated him and eventually ended up firing him, and i believe what our dear record collecting friend is asking of us is what would have happened if things worked out with brian. which they didn't, thankfully.
apparently he was a real son of a bitch. i know he beat anita and had a gaggle of illegitimate kids.

gmku · 12.14.2006, 01:38 AM

I think Brian would have joined the Beatles. Paul would leave in a huff, George would be fascinated at having a kind of soul mate in the band, and John would choose to keep the band together and the Beatles would go on to make crazy psychedelic shit throughout the 70s.

TheMadcapLaughs · 12.14.2006, 01:39 AM

sorry to be a smart ass but, murdered him means alienated? i thought gmku meant actually murdered cause that is a stupid fucking theory that some people actually believe.

Cantankerous · 12.14.2006, 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by gmku

I'd like to hear something really absurd and unfounded, though. Anyone?

brian jones is still alive.

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Originally Posted by TheMadcapLaughs

sorry to be a smart ass but, murdered him means alienated? i thought gmku meant actually murdered cause that is a stupid fucking theory that some people actually believe.

do you not understand that the english language is flexible to a certain extent and that some words can be used to magnify the severity of a situation?

TheMadcapLaughs · 12.14.2006, 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by gmku

I think Brian would have joined the Beatles. Paul would leave in a huff, George would be fascinated at having a kind of soul mate in the band, and John would choose to keep the band together and the Beatles would go on to make crazy psychedelic shit throughout the 70s.

i think thats fairly obvious

gmku · 12.14.2006, 01:41 AM

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Originally Posted by TheMadcapLaughs

sorry to be a smart ass but, murdered him means alienated? i thought gmku meant actually murdered cause that is a stupid fucking theory that some people actually believe.

NO, the lovely and insightful Cantankerous is correct. I was speaking metaphorically with tongue half in cheek. And stop being so damned contentious. Maybe you haven't caught on yet that we try to be cordial around here, for the most part.

Everyneurotic · 12.14.2006, 01:42 AM

what if the stones stayed together and were still making albums and touring?

gmku · 12.14.2006, 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Cantankerous

brian jones is still alive.

do you not understand that the english language is flexible to a certain extent and that some words can be used to magnify the severity of a situation?

"... you know sometimes words have two mea-eanings..."

TheMadcapLaughs · 12.14.2006, 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Cantankerous

brian jones is still alive.

do you not understand that the english language is flexible to a certain extent and that some words can be used to magnify the severity of a situation?

no i do, but if he happens to use the fucking word "murder", im goign to think thats exactly what he meant, because people do believe, that rolling stones, mick or keith or whatever, actually physically murdered him. And anyways, I think we are both wrong now, since it appears gmku is just fucking around.

gmku · 12.14.2006, 01:43 AM

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what if the stones stayed together and were still making albums and touring?

That's ridiculous! And Keith would wear metal bits in his hair. Right! Ha!

gmku · 12.14.2006, 01:44 AM

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Originally Posted by TheMadcapLaughs

no i do, but if he happens to use the fucking word "murder", im goign to think thats exactly what he meant, because people do believe, that rolling stones, mick or keith or whatever, actually physically murdered him. And anyways, I think we are both wrong now, since it appears gmku is just fucking around.

People, people, can we all just get along. Brothers and sisters, what are we fighting for?

Cantankerous · 12.14.2006, 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by TheMadcapLaughs

no i do, but if he happens to use the fucking word "murder", im goign to think thats exactly what he meant, because people do believe, that rolling stones, mick or keith or whatever, actually physically murdered him. And anyways, I think we are both wrong now, since it appears gmku is just fucking around.

i like how literally you think. the mark of a true american.

well shit. now i sound like gwyneth paltrow.

gmku · 12.14.2006, 01:47 AM

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Originally Posted by TheMadcapLaughs

no i do, but if he happens to use the fucking word "murder", im goign to think thats exactly what he meant, because people do believe, that rolling stones, mick or keith or whatever, actually physically murdered him. And anyways, I think we are both wrong now, since it appears gmku is just fucking around.

There is one who got it right, and one who got it wrong. Let's set it straight:

Cantankerous = right
MadcrapLaughs = wrong

12.14.2006, 01:27 AM	#1
gmku invito al cielo Join Date: May 2006 Location: Oxford, England Posts: 15,225	What if the other Rolling Stones hadn't murdered him? Would we have Let It Bleed, Sticky Fingers, and Exile? Or would we have them but they'd be filled with sitar and other wild things? Would the Stones sound like the Brian Jonestown Massacre? Under Brian's influence, maybe Keith would have stayed off junk and become an acid head instead. Maybe Mick would have been less of a socialite. Maybe Brown Sugar would have an Indian raga break instead of a sax solo. Your thoughts? __________________ Ever notice how this place just basically, well, sucks.
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12.14.2006, 01:31 AM	#2
Cantankerous invito al cielo Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: A RETIREMENT HOME Posts: 18,499	the only good thing that would come of him being alive is the fact that the stones would have broken up years ago as they should have. if brian had been around keith would still have been on the brown. mick would still have been a prissy bitch. brown sugar would have sucked. __________________ RETIRED
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Everyneurotic invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Mexico Posts: 15,713	we might have had them but they would sound different, although my real guess is that he would have quit the stones and then form another band or gone solo and, depending on his level of ego-centritcness and number of yesmen he surrounded himself with, be either great or incredibly bad. __________________ Richard Clayderman found alive and still bland! Repo Man has all night! Photographic evidence of Monosodic's existance! New Kiddieriot shit after all! Never too late to share fave rex from the year before! David Keenan is a douchebag! Ron Asheton missed!
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12.14.2006, 01:32 AM	#4
Cantankerous invito al cielo Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: A RETIREMENT HOME Posts: 18,499	my guess is that he would have left anyway and gone off and done some flowery psychedelic bullshit. and just for the record, keith was doing smack when brian was still in the band. __________________ RETIRED
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12.14.2006, 01:34 AM	#5
TheMadcapLaughs 100% Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: SF, CA Posts: 819	Fools, he was already kicked out of the group when he drowned/was killed/died/whatever, nothing would have changed at all!
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12.14.2006, 01:35 AM	#6
Everyneurotic invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Mexico Posts: 15,713	what if mick had gone solo in 1969? __________________ Richard Clayderman found alive and still bland! Repo Man has all night! Photographic evidence of Monosodic's existance! New Kiddieriot shit after all! Never too late to share fave rex from the year before! David Keenan is a douchebag! Ron Asheton missed!
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12.14.2006, 01:38 AM	#9
gmku invito al cielo Join Date: May 2006 Location: Oxford, England Posts: 15,225	I think Brian would have joined the Beatles. Paul would leave in a huff, George would be fascinated at having a kind of soul mate in the band, and John would choose to keep the band together and the Beatles would go on to make crazy psychedelic shit throughout the 70s. __________________ Ever notice how this place just basically, well, sucks.
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12.14.2006, 01:39 AM	#10
TheMadcapLaughs 100% Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: SF, CA Posts: 819	sorry to be a smart ass but, murdered him means alienated? i thought gmku meant actually murdered cause that is a stupid fucking theory that some people actually believe.
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12.14.2006, 01:42 AM	#14
Everyneurotic invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Mexico Posts: 15,713	what if the stones stayed together and were still making albums and touring? __________________ Richard Clayderman found alive and still bland! Repo Man has all night! Photographic evidence of Monosodic's existance! New Kiddieriot shit after all! Never too late to share fave rex from the year before! David Keenan is a douchebag! Ron Asheton missed!
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