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Old 07.19.2013, 02:41 PM   #1
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Damn. What a trip. Detroit used to be a city larger than Los Angeles. It used to be one of the industrial capitals of the world, and I'm not talking about 75 year ago, we're talking about 20-25 years ago. Look at how Korean car companies have swooped in on America's domestic low-budget market. People used to buy broke Fords and GMs. Now they buy Kia. European and Japanese luxury cars also took over the high-end which used to be dominated by American brands like Lincoln and Buick.

The city has literally been a shell of itself. The population has dropped 90% from his highest point. 10% base population can't possibly afford to support a world-sized metropolis. Its also a noticeable failure of a black city. Detroit was a sizable black city on its own right, but now? Folks have moved out because of a lack of opportunity. Jim Crow wasn't defeated by activists and marches, they played their part, but Jim Crow was defeated by mass migration to urban centers for decent employment. Black folks could make an honest living in Detroit, or Chicago, or New York, or even Los Angeles during the industrial boom from 1915-1955. Now? Detroit has collapsed, Chicago is becoming one of the nations most violent cities, strongly resembling early 1990s Los Angeles in crime and political ineptitude. Detroit has probably more empty buildings, both industrial and residential, than collapsed Soviet era cities..

What a shame. When Vallejo became the first city in the US to declare bankruptcy, Detroit was never on the radar, even as struggling as it was then just a few years ago.

Americans. Time to pay the piper. A system build on exploitation has moved on to exploit different peoples and lands. Now America has its reach in the economies of Asia and the Americas. We don't need to exploit American labor, we can exploit foreign workers for even MORE profits, meanwhile classic American urban centers collapse under their own weight while big corporations are proportionally even WEALTHIER than they were a hundred years ago in the Gilded Era of Robber Barons.


 
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Old 07.19.2013, 02:56 PM   #2
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...or it could be read as a failed leftist/liberal experiment.
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Old 07.19.2013, 02:57 PM   #3
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...or it could be read as a failed leftist/liberal experiment.

you'll have to explain that a bit
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Old 07.19.2013, 03:01 PM   #4
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you'll have to explain that a bit

ah, i put a link (i just googled "detroit failed liberal experiment")

i guess that government assistance and intervention can't save a failing economy-- or, that government interference can kill a thriving economy.
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Oh yeah, EIGHTY PERCENT of Detroit's remaining population is black. Just like Vallejo, and Stockton is predominantly brown. Interesting how all the actually bankrupted cities are not predominantly white, considering the racism inherent in the economic and political structures of the US. Yeah, I pulled the race card on this one, fuck y'all haters. Its not a coincidence that Vallejo and Detroit are forced into bankruptcy, meanwhile other cities in the past have received bail outs, readjustments, and other infusing of cash. However, generally speaking, America seems content to let 500,000 black folks fall off a cliff into oblivion, even though they've been paying their taxes and bills, and many of the public sector workers there have been contributing in faith that their pensions and retirement plans aren't on the chopping block. Bankruptcy allows for those commitments to be restructured out of existence. "And then the system wins again and will carry on winning until God knows when.."


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...or it could be read as a failed leftist/liberal experiment.

I disagree. If anything, with all its pro-auto-industry history, I dare say Detroit it the OPPOSITE of any kind of liberal experiments. The predominant presence of public sector workers is not part of some massive liberal experiment, it is the demographic reality of white flight. All the folks who could, moved out of the Detroit metropolitan area, and what remains are the people who can't leave. These generally include pubic sector workers who have invested their entire future into Detroit.



But !@#$%!, you yourself ARE a failed leftist/liberal experiment, so I suppose you would know best
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Old 07.19.2013, 03:11 PM   #6
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I agree. If anything, with all its pro-auto-industry history, I dare say Detroit it the OPPOSITE of any kind of liberal experiments. But !@#$%!, you yourself ARE a failed leftist/liberal experiment, so I suppose you know best

why, white man, you disappoint-- you're not going to be calling me a punk mother fucker? come on, i just had a nice lunch and i'm a bit sleepy and i could use the laughs.

okay, how about this:

your aryan brethren didn't force the disgraceful black mayors of detroit to be corrupt fuckups.

http://www.pbs.org/wnet/tavissmiley/...me-kilpatrick/

http://www.mlive.com/news/detroit/in..._dad_made.html

former teacher, no less.

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Old 07.19.2013, 03:19 PM   #7
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that bullshit website you quoted is nonsense. It showed how (while insinuating that these are pariahs) Detroit schools have 14,000 workers, and the city of Detroit has 13,000 workers. Well, lets examine the conservative Republican stronghold of Dallas, Texas, and see if it some kind of Rightist Shangri La.

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Public school teachers 25, 772
Police Officers 11,406

http://www.texastribune.org/library/...laries/titles/


Some grand liberal experiment
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hear it from a black man

http://wakeupblackamerica.blogspot.c...ment-part.html

oh no! he CAN'T be black! he's an uncle tom! he's a white man in blackface! all real black people are leftists!
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hear it from a black man

http://wakeupblackamerica.blogspot.c...ment-part.html

oh no! he CAN'T be black! he's an uncle tom! he's a white man in blackface! all real black people are leftists!

No, the only Leftist here is you're curmudgeon ass

You can't blame what happened in Detroit entirely on corrupt politicians, black or white, its a result of a structural shift in the American economy. Where does potential racism have its play? Again, other major metropolitan centers have faced similar economic downfalls and near-bankruptcies in the past, but have been bailed out by a combination of private and public investment, restructuring, and even Federal legal involvement. However, what stands as one of the largest remaining black cities in the country? Left to the wolves. What will happen to a predominantly black public sector labor force who have one way or the other dedicated their entire future and livelihood to serving the communities in Detroit? They will end up having to declare bankruptcy too as their pensions, retirement packages, benefits, and in the end, employment, is thrown on the chopping black err block. Again, some liberal experiment
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You can't blame what happened in Detroit entirely on corrupt politicians, black or white, its a result of a structural shift in the American economy. Where does potential racism have its play? Again, other major metropolitan centers have faced similar economic downfalls and near-bankruptcies in the past, but have been bailed out by a combination of private and public investment, restructuring, and even Federal legal involvement. However, what stands as one of the largest remaining black cities in the country? Left to the wolves. What will happen to a predominantly black public sector labor force who have one way or the other dedicated their entire future and livelihood to serving the communities in Detroit? They will end up having to declare bankruptcy to as their pensions, retirement packages, benefits, and in the end, employment, is thrown on the chopping black err block. Again, some liberal experiment

meh, i stopped listening to you since the other day, white man. i'm just trolling.
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meh, i stopped listening to you since the other day. i'm just trolling.

Meh sums up just about how I feel about your very existence.

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and THAT is why you are indeed just a punk motherfucker, bitch.

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What ever you say. You're the one who has to get up everyday and face your own nihilistic hypocrisy of an existence. Is it fun, day after day, to waste your life on the endless emptiness that is your very soul?
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What ever you say. You're the one who has to get up everyday and face your own nihilistic hypocrisy of an existence. Is it fun, day after day, to waste your life on the endless emptiness that is your very soul?

what's a "soul"?

as for nihilism: no. i have values. they just aren't retarded ones.
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what's a "soul"?

as for nihilism: no. i have values. they just aren't retarded ones.

 


Yeah, you have values, like Mussolini
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Yeah, you have values, like Mussolini
ha ha ha, you're the racist one here. fact.

racism = retarded value.
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racism = retarded value.

y the way, calling things you disagree with "retarded' isn't exactly acceptable nomenclature any longer, a rabid Democrat like yourself, you know, who volunteered with all their campaigns and sucked the dicks of all their politricks, surely should know better by now. At least when I call you punk motherfucker, I am only insulting you, directly and personally, and leaving defenseless folks with disabilities out of it
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y the way, calling things you disagree with "retarded' isn't exactly acceptable nomenclature any longer, a rabid Democrat like yourself, you know, who volunteered with all their campaigns and sucked the dicks of all their politricks, surely should know better by now. At least when I call you punk motherfucker, I am only insulting you, directly and personally, and leaving defenseless folks with disabilities out of it

oy, white man, trying to get me with politically incorrect crimes.

fine-- my apologies to the mentally challenged for comparing them to a garden variety fool.

there. fixed!

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