[ni'k]

the idea that -

you make the best music when you are fucked up on drugs
you need to be fucked up on drugs to make your best music
drugs increase/are an essential part of the creative process
the best musicians were those who were really fucked up on drugs

IS THE STUPIDEST FUCKING IDEA EVER

but at least explains the type of music some of you are listening to in 09

its also the cause of so much needless suffering/self indulgent bill hicks narcissism

[automatic bzooty]

there is massively substantial evidence against yr position good sir.

[atsonicpark]

Surprise is having a bomb go off under a table over which two people are talking. Suspense is showing us the bomb before it goes off.

[ni'k]

Originally Posted by swa(y)

im guessing yr experience w/ drugs is minimal at best.

you're guessing wrong.

[ni'k]

Originally Posted by automatic bzooty

there is massively substantial evidence against yr position good sir.

i don't think so. all i see is over hyped mediocre rockstars whose music is nothing but pastiche with celeb personality attached self destructing and being hailed as genius' when they are nothing of the sort.

[ni'k]

Originally Posted by swa(y)

nah, im guessing right.

...not that that is a bad thing. its not.

but anyone thats had a decent amount of experience w/ drugs knows the effects they can have on the body, as well as mind...the negative, as well as the positive effects, and the intense inspiration that can come from both.

im NOT encouraging drugs.

so what you're saying is that i obviously haven't done as much drugs as you cos if i did i would have had the intense inspiration you have had from them.

[atsonicpark]

drone drug

[ni'k]

Originally Posted by swa(y)

so, what is genius ni'k? please explain since you are so informed....

i never claimed to know. i think it's just an adjective people use.

[ni'k]

i just said i never claimed to know. how the fuck am i speaking as if i'm enlightened?

[ni'k]

when i said i never claimed to know, i was referring to when you said "so what is genius ni'k? please explain since you are so informed..." not about drugs. so i didn't prove your point.

but instead of wasting anymore time talking to you everyone can just read your actual posts. they speak for themselves.

[dirty bunny]

I don't know how much drugs really inspire people, as much as they can make them look at things differently, perhaps let things flow more easily.

Having the talent before you take the drugs is necessary if you're going to be inspired to do anything good.

[Elder.]

To me drugs just help to put you in another plane, to look at music in a whole different perception. Sometimes good and sometimes bad. Though there is no doubt that they make music sound a lot better.

[Zombie Robot]

im on drugs rt now.
and i just finished playn guitar.
and i have nothing else to say really that's relevant to this thread.

[atsonicpark]

drugs fucking rule

[Elder.]

I used to be really anti-drug...until I tried them.

[notyourfiend]

Hallucinogenics can make you think/experience beyond the limits of yr ego and all....but there are a lot of other things that can do the same thing. Meditate, record yr dreams etc. I personally think that drugs tend to be used as a cop-out mode of mind expansion. And that many times, they bring out false epiphanies. That being said, I don't think that drugs are necessarily bad, at least not much worse than a lot of other shit. They can be a hell of a lot of fun. And sometimes jamming out on them can be fun. But I really think that they are often overrated in the process of producing art. I don't really like the mystification about them being the key to creative power that we attribute to them.

Also, I've found that drugs/alcohol tend to distract people from actually being productive.

[automatic bzooty]

obviously, it's a case by case basis.

and obviously, there's always going to be something good behind it. it's not like you can just shoot up fucktons of heroin and sit around expecting genius results on tape.

[Satan]

every musician i know of was better on drugs but they weren't good because of the drugs. the drugs just made them better.

however i do not condone drug use (yes i do)

no but really theyre not for everyone. but if you can handle it, go for it.

[GeneticKiss]

Drinking a bit can loosen me up enough to be a be more daring on guitar. Same goes for playing video games.

I remember a bit back, two of the members of my band were smoking pot (I got a little bit of a contact high) before we jammed, and we got some pretty cool results.

However, we usually get cool results whether drugs are involved or not.

I think it's more of a case that people who are inclined towards music or any kind of art are just the kind of people who'd be prone to drug use.

Today, everyone uses drugs, even if it's just caffeine.

[infinitemusic]

Originally Posted by swa(y)

im guessing yr experience w/ drugs is minimal at best.

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