Rant about Capital Punishment.

Sheriff Rhys Chatham · 04.13.2006, 05:27 PM

i have to say I find the death sentence completey retarded. All the time I here these christian soccer moms talking about murderers and how they deserve to die.
1) Being that religious wouldn't murder be completely wronge making it stupid to do in vengance?
2) Killing someone for murder is just letting them off easy. Id rather spend tax paying money to keep a murderer alive in prison than have him killed. If this person just gets killed then they aren't really being punished, unless you believe in hell. Let the fucker rot in jail I say.

I'd write more but I just woke up from a nap...

terminal pharmacy · 04.13.2006, 05:31 PM

what if they have the wrong person, pretty simple equation, wrong person, capital punishment, bad

Sheriff Rhys Chatham · 04.13.2006, 05:34 PM

did you hear about a jugde in new hamshire? He gave a rapist 60 days in prison because he felt avenging bad deads with more 'negative situations' would be bad as well.

samuel · 04.13.2006, 05:37 PM

I think some cases call for the capital punishment. You all know what horrible things people can do, so I don't feel like listing what I feel deserves the capital punishment.

Glice · 04.13.2006, 05:38 PM

Hmm. It's difficult to say anything on this without commenting, from a biased perspective, on the American legal/ political situation in general.

So I won't.

Пятхъдесят Шест · 04.13.2006, 05:38 PM

The logic that gets me....abortion = bad, capital punishment = good.

I don't know, this country is odd.

samuel · 04.13.2006, 05:41 PM

Everybody I know thinks abortion is good and bad depending on the circumstance, same with the death penalty. I don't see this logic you speak of. I don't think anybody feels 100% either way, maybe I'm wrong.

sellouteater · 04.13.2006, 05:43 PM

abortion good sometimes

death sentence bad always

terminal pharmacy · 04.13.2006, 05:44 PM

i feel 100% that the death penalty is wrong, because their have been reported cases of the wrong person being executed and an innocent person at that

samuel · 04.13.2006, 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by terminal pharmacy

i feel 100% that the death penalty is wrong, because their have been reported cases of the wrong person being executed and an innocent person at that

Yeah that's horrible, but I think in many cases, the death penalty is the logical punishment.

Пятхъдесят Шест · 04.13.2006, 05:51 PM

What I was getting at was people who are against abortion, are also the ones who in support of the death penalty.

Maybe its my location, but this is rampant here. Christian zealots and such...

Glice · 04.13.2006, 05:53 PM

Without putting any personal slant on things, does anyone know which countries still have the death penalty?

golden child · 04.13.2006, 05:55 PM

abortion = bad
capital punishment = bad

samuel · 04.13.2006, 05:57 PM

Oh I understand now. I didn't mean my other post to sound the way it came out. Yeah, it's strange how people's opinions can be so odd. I'm sure they're not %100 one way or another though. I don't see how anyone could be. But strongly favoring the death penalty and opposing abortion is kind of weird.

truncated · 04.13.2006, 06:01 PM

1. Abolitionist for all crimes

Countries whose laws do not provide for the death penalty for any crime

ANDORRA, ANGOLA, ARMENIA, AUSTRALIA, AUSTRIA, AZERBAIJAN, BELGIUM, BHUTAN, BOSNIA-HERZEGOVINA, BULGARIA, CAMBODIA, CANADA, CAPE VERDE, COLOMBIA, COSTA RICA, COTE D'IVOIRE, CROATIA, CYPRUS, CZECH REPUBLIC, DENMARK, DJIBOUTI, DOMINICAN REPUBLIC,ECUADOR, ESTONIA, FINLAND, FRANCE, GEORGIA, GERMANY,GREECE, GUINEA-BISSAU, HAITI, HONDURAS, HUNGARY, ICELAND, IRELAND, ITALY, KIRIBATI, LIBERIA, LIECHTENSTEIN, LITHUANIA, LUXEMBOURG, MACEDONIA (former Yugoslav Republic), MALTA, MARSHALL ISLANDS, MAURITIUS, MEXICO, MICRONESIA (Federated States), MOLDOVA, MONACO, MOZAMBIQUE, NAMIBIA, NEPAL, NETHERLANDS, NEW ZEALAND, NICARAGUA, NIUE, NORWAY, PALAU, PANAMA, PARAGUAY, POLAND, PORTUGAL, ROMANIA, SAMOA, SAN MARINO, SAO TOME AND PRINCIPE, SENEGAL, SERBIA AND MONTENEGRO, SEYCHELLES, SLOVAK REPUBLIC, SLOVENIA, SOLOMON ISLANDS, SOUTH AFRICA, SPAIN, SWEDEN, SWITZERLAND, TIMOR-LESTE, TURKEY, TURKMENISTAN, TUVALU, UKRAINE, UNITED KINGDOM, URUGUAY, VANUATU, VATICAN CITY STATE, VENEZUELA

2. Abolitionist for ordinary crimes only

Countries whose laws provide for the death penalty only for exceptional crimes such as crimes under military law or crimes committed in exceptional circumstances

ALBANIA, ARGENTINA, BOLIVIA, BRAZIL, CHILE, COOK ISLANDS, EL SALVADOR, FIJI, ISRAEL, LATVIA, PERU

3. Abolitionist in practice

Countries which retain the death penalty for ordinary crimes such as murder but can be considered abolitionist in practice in that they have not executed anyone during the past 10 years and are believed to have a policy or established practice of not carrying out executions. The list also includes countries which have made an international commitment not to use the death penalty

ALGERIA, BAHRAIN, BENIN, BRUNEI DARUSSALAM, BURKINA FASO, CENTRAL AFRICAN REPUBLIC, CONGO (Republic), GAMBIA, GRENADA, KENYA, MADAGASCAR, MALAWI, MALDIVES, MALI, MAURITANIA, MOROCCO, MYANMAR, NAURU, NIGER, PAPUA NEW GUINEA, RUSSIAN FEDERATION, SRI LANKA, SURINAME, TOGO, TONGA, TUNISIA

4. Retentionist

Countries and territories which retain the death penalty for ordinary crimes

AFGHANISTAN, ANTIGUA AND BARBUDA, BAHAMAS, BANGLADESH, BARBADOS, BELARUS, BELIZE, BOTSWANA, BURUNDI, CAMEROON, CHAD, CHINA, COMOROS, CONGO (Democratic Republic), CUBA, DOMINICA, EGYPT, EQUATORIAL GUINEA, ERITREA, ETHIOPIA, GABON, GHANA, GUATEMALA, GUINEA, GUYANA, INDIA, INDONESIA, IRAN, IRAQ, JAMAICA, JAPAN, JORDAN, KAZAKSTAN, KOREA (North), KOREA (South), KUWAIT, KYRGYZSTAN, LAOS, LEBANON, LESOTHO, LIBYA, MALAYSIA, MONGOLIA, NIGERIA, OMAN, PAKISTAN, PALESTINIAN AUTHORITY, PHILIPPINES, QATAR, RWANDA, SAINT CHRISTOPHER & NEVIS, SAINT LUCIA, SAINT VINCENT & GRENADINES, SAUDI ARABIA, SIERRA LEONE, SINGAPORE, SOMALIA, SUDAN, SWAZILAND, SYRIA, TAIWAN, TAJIKISTAN, TANZANIA, THAILAND, TRINIDAD AND TOBAGO, UGANDA, UNITED ARAB EMIRATES, UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, UZBEKISTAN, VIET NAM, YEMEN, ZAMBIA, ZIMBABWE

Glice · 04.13.2006, 06:03 PM

You have just gone and found exactly the information I was about to post. We are looking at two of the same pages. http://web.amnesty.org/pages/deathpenalty-countries-eng

Glice · 04.13.2006, 06:05 PM

Interesting the list of countries still practising includes lot of economically poor countries, most of the communist countries I can think of, and, most interestingly, America's political foes.

truncated · 04.13.2006, 06:06 PM

Well naturally. I am stalking you, remember?

samuel · 04.13.2006, 06:07 PM

I don't think that the death penalty is ever used for ordinary crimes. And if it is, then I'm against that. However, just think of the worst possible thing a human could do to another, and I guarantee it's been done many times. Some people who do unspeakable things deserve to just die, not sit it prison (which isn't too shabby nowadays). Last post for me. I'm looking forward to reading other opinions. Oh also, what would you consider ordinary crimes?

truncated · 04.13.2006, 06:07 PM

The death penalty in America is a response to poor financial management.

View Poll Results: death sentance good or bad?
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04.13.2006, 05:27 PM	#1
Sheriff Rhys Chatham invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: New England. Posts: 4,027	i have to say I find the death sentence completey retarded. All the time I here these christian soccer moms talking about murderers and how they deserve to die. 1) Being that religious wouldn't murder be completely wronge making it stupid to do in vengance? 2) Killing someone for murder is just letting them off easy. Id rather spend tax paying money to keep a murderer alive in prison than have him killed. If this person just gets killed then they aren't really being punished, unless you believe in hell. Let the fucker rot in jail I say. I'd write more but I just woke up from a nap... __________________ My Music(grunge rock) A part of this blue shit since June 24th, 2004
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04.13.2006, 05:31 PM	#2
terminal pharmacy invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Australia Posts: 3,358	what if they have the wrong person, pretty simple equation, wrong person, capital punishment, bad
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04.13.2006, 05:34 PM	#3
Sheriff Rhys Chatham invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: New England. Posts: 4,027	did you hear about a jugde in new hamshire? He gave a rapist 60 days in prison because he felt avenging bad deads with more 'negative situations' would be bad as well. __________________ My Music(grunge rock) A part of this blue shit since June 24th, 2004
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04.13.2006, 05:37 PM	#4
samuel the end of the ugly Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,174	I think some cases call for the capital punishment. You all know what horrible things people can do, so I don't feel like listing what I feel deserves the capital punishment.
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04.13.2006, 05:38 PM	#6
Пятхъдесят Шест invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Omaha, Nebraska, USA Posts: 3,063	The logic that gets me....abortion = bad, capital punishment = good. I don't know, this country is odd.
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04.13.2006, 05:41 PM	#7
samuel the end of the ugly Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,174	Everybody I know thinks abortion is good and bad depending on the circumstance, same with the death penalty. I don't see this logic you speak of. I don't think anybody feels 100% either way, maybe I'm wrong.
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04.13.2006, 05:43 PM	#8
sellouteater the end of the ugly Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: i am not going to tell you Posts: 962	abortion good sometimes death sentence bad always __________________ S I T M F T J
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04.13.2006, 05:44 PM	#9
terminal pharmacy invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Australia Posts: 3,358	i feel 100% that the death penalty is wrong, because their have been reported cases of the wrong person being executed and an innocent person at that
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04.13.2006, 05:51 PM	#11
Пятхъдесят Шест invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Omaha, Nebraska, USA Posts: 3,063	What I was getting at was people who are against abortion, are also the ones who in support of the death penalty. Maybe its my location, but this is rampant here. Christian zealots and such...
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04.13.2006, 05:55 PM	#13
golden child expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,672	abortion = bad capital punishment = bad __________________ blind
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04.13.2006, 05:57 PM	#14
samuel the end of the ugly Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,174	Oh I understand now. I didn't mean my other post to sound the way it came out. Yeah, it's strange how people's opinions can be so odd. I'm sure they're not %100 one way or another though. I don't see how anyone could be. But strongly favoring the death penalty and opposing abortion is kind of weird.
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04.13.2006, 06:01 PM	#15
truncated invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 3,607	1. Abolitionist for all crimes Countries whose laws do not provide for the death penalty for any crime ANDORRA, ANGOLA, ARMENIA, AUSTRALIA, AUSTRIA, AZERBAIJAN, BELGIUM, BHUTAN, BOSNIA-HERZEGOVINA, BULGARIA, CAMBODIA, CANADA, CAPE VERDE, COLOMBIA, COSTA RICA, COTE D'IVOIRE, CROATIA, CYPRUS, CZECH REPUBLIC, DENMARK, DJIBOUTI, DOMINICAN REPUBLIC,ECUADOR, ESTONIA, FINLAND, FRANCE, GEORGIA, GERMANY,GREECE, GUINEA-BISSAU, HAITI, HONDURAS, HUNGARY, ICELAND, IRELAND, ITALY, KIRIBATI, LIBERIA, LIECHTENSTEIN, LITHUANIA, LUXEMBOURG, MACEDONIA (former Yugoslav Republic), MALTA, MARSHALL ISLANDS, MAURITIUS, MEXICO, MICRONESIA (Federated States), MOLDOVA, MONACO, MOZAMBIQUE, NAMIBIA, NEPAL, NETHERLANDS, NEW ZEALAND, NICARAGUA, NIUE, NORWAY, PALAU, PANAMA, PARAGUAY, POLAND, PORTUGAL, ROMANIA, SAMOA, SAN MARINO, SAO TOME AND PRINCIPE, SENEGAL, SERBIA AND MONTENEGRO, SEYCHELLES, SLOVAK REPUBLIC, SLOVENIA, SOLOMON ISLANDS, SOUTH AFRICA, SPAIN, SWEDEN, SWITZERLAND, TIMOR-LESTE, TURKEY, TURKMENISTAN, TUVALU, UKRAINE, UNITED KINGDOM, URUGUAY, VANUATU, VATICAN CITY STATE, VENEZUELA 2. Abolitionist for ordinary crimes only Countries whose laws provide for the death penalty only for exceptional crimes such as crimes under military law or crimes committed in exceptional circumstances ALBANIA, ARGENTINA, BOLIVIA, BRAZIL, CHILE, COOK ISLANDS, EL SALVADOR, FIJI, ISRAEL, LATVIA, PERU 3. Abolitionist in practice Countries which retain the death penalty for ordinary crimes such as murder but can be considered abolitionist in practice in that they have not executed anyone during the past 10 years and are believed to have a policy or established practice of not carrying out executions. The list also includes countries which have made an international commitment not to use the death penalty ALGERIA, BAHRAIN, BENIN, BRUNEI DARUSSALAM, BURKINA FASO, CENTRAL AFRICAN REPUBLIC, CONGO (Republic), GAMBIA, GRENADA, KENYA, MADAGASCAR, MALAWI, MALDIVES, MALI, MAURITANIA, MOROCCO, MYANMAR, NAURU, NIGER, PAPUA NEW GUINEA, RUSSIAN FEDERATION, SRI LANKA, SURINAME, TOGO, TONGA, TUNISIA 4. Retentionist Countries and territories which retain the death penalty for ordinary crimes AFGHANISTAN, ANTIGUA AND BARBUDA, BAHAMAS, BANGLADESH, BARBADOS, BELARUS, BELIZE, BOTSWANA, BURUNDI, CAMEROON, CHAD, CHINA, COMOROS, CONGO (Democratic Republic), CUBA, DOMINICA, EGYPT, EQUATORIAL GUINEA, ERITREA, ETHIOPIA, GABON, GHANA, GUATEMALA, GUINEA, GUYANA, INDIA, INDONESIA, IRAN, IRAQ, JAMAICA, JAPAN, JORDAN, KAZAKSTAN, KOREA (North), KOREA (South), KUWAIT, KYRGYZSTAN, LAOS, LEBANON, LESOTHO, LIBYA, MALAYSIA, MONGOLIA, NIGERIA, OMAN, PAKISTAN, PALESTINIAN AUTHORITY, PHILIPPINES, QATAR, RWANDA, SAINT CHRISTOPHER & NEVIS, SAINT LUCIA, SAINT VINCENT & GRENADINES, SAUDI ARABIA, SIERRA LEONE, SINGAPORE, SOMALIA, SUDAN, SWAZILAND, SYRIA, TAIWAN, TAJIKISTAN, TANZANIA, THAILAND, TRINIDAD AND TOBAGO, UGANDA, UNITED ARAB EMIRATES, UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, UZBEKISTAN, VIET NAM, YEMEN, ZAMBIA, ZIMBABWE
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04.13.2006, 06:06 PM	#18
truncated invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 3,607	Well naturally. I am stalking you, remember?
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04.13.2006, 06:07 PM	#19
samuel the end of the ugly Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,174	I don't think that the death penalty is ever used for ordinary crimes. And if it is, then I'm against that. However, just think of the worst possible thing a human could do to another, and I guarantee it's been done many times. Some people who do unspeakable things deserve to just die, not sit it prison (which isn't too shabby nowadays). Last post for me. I'm looking forward to reading other opinions. Oh also, what would you consider ordinary crimes?
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