Paris Boardies Are Any of You Affected by the Riots?

SynthethicalY · 11.27.2007, 06:09 AM

I just read something about it, what are they rioting about?

HECKLER SPRAY · 11.27.2007, 06:29 AM

In fact, there were 2 young people (15 and 16) on a pocket bike ithout helmet who crashed in a police car anf died. The witnesses said the policemen were not responsible but the youngs friends don't believe them, and they started burning everything. they bruned a lot of cars, a school, a public library, a garage... And injured a lot of policemen.
Fucking bastards...
Hopefully for me, it happened in the northern suburbs and I live in the southern suburbs.

m1rr0r dash · 11.27.2007, 02:51 PM

i hadn't been born yet, and i don't live in paris. but i have been affected.

Nous sommes tous des Juifs allemands!!

Rob Instigator · 11.27.2007, 02:56 PM

The people say that the police did nothing to help the two youths and that they actually left them there.

fuck the police
comin straight from the underground...

racehorse · 11.27.2007, 03:00 PM

apparently 70 buildings and cars have been burnt down,, including a library and two schools.

m1rr0r dash · 11.27.2007, 03:37 PM

...oh you mean these new school stylee riots?

stop au carnage et paix a la memoire de Moushin et Larami.

gualbert · 11.27.2007, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by m1rr0r dash

Nous sommes tous des Juifs allemands!!

Right now , it's more something like:
Nous sommes tous des députés européens!
or
Nous sommes tous des maires de Francfort!

Rob Instigator · 11.27.2007, 05:38 PM

accepte vous le carte du credi?

gualbert · 11.27.2007, 05:45 PM

oui.donne le numero moi.that is very bon.( I can use it )

m1rr0r dash · 11.27.2007, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by gualbert

Right now , it's more something like:
Nous sommes tous des députés européens!
or
Nous sommes tous des maires de Francfort!

...sorry, i am unfamiliar with the current mood in france, but are you saying that instead of students (priveleged) saying "we are all german jews!" to stand in solidarity with the unpriveleged, the unpriveleged are hoping to bring recognition to their struggle (becoming ministers or mayors...?) to the priveleged?

gualbert · 11.27.2007, 08:20 PM

No , I was refering to Daniel Cohn-Bendit , who’s the one who said : we are all german jews! / Nous sommes tous des Juifs allemands!! , back in 1968. ( he is a german jew , but what’s the point ?! )
Since then , he has become mayor of Frankfurt , and a member of the european parliament , where he earns several thousands euros a month for raising his arm between two naps .
I think he can’t lead a revolution out of that .

Bertrand · 11.28.2007, 04:16 AM

Cohn-Bendit was more than angry last time Sarkozy spoke.
Our beloved national muscle boy will preside Europe for 6 months, and he came to say hello in Strasbourg (or is it Bruxelles?), gave Europe a nice lecture filled with contradictions; that's what made DCB go mad.
What Sarkozy said can't be recalled, as I assume it was 100% nice and consensual. At the same time, it was in contradiction with what he's doing : making deals with Kadahfi; patting Africa on the head in Dakar "the African man is a man whose mind is set on the past, he hasn't entered the picture of modern times"; going to have a little dinner with the corpse of Bush saying nothing about Guantanamo or Irak but talking about his love for Elvis Presley, Marilyn Monroe and John Wayne - modern times, all these postcards are dead.

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Originally Posted by racehorse

apparently 70 buildings and cars have been burnt down,, including a library and two schools.

70 buildings and cars?
There have been cars and trash cans, that's sure.
As far as buildings are concerned, there has been some destruction, but what our media tell (a media whose executives are close friends to the tallest president that ever lived on the face of Earth), is that a library, a school, a garage were burnt, and two police precincts got nearly the same treatment; add to that a drugstore being robbed and few other shops.
That's enough and pretty sad.

The riot took place in a restricted area, I mean it hasn't spread across the nation. It hit the city the accident occured in, and its immediate neighbours (3-4 towns connected to one another - by this I mean when you leave one, you don't feel it, there's nothing in between, no forest, you walk down the street, next step you're in a different city).

So :
We have two dead teenagers.
We have the destruction of a school, a library.
We have police forces who were shot at (it hadn't happened two years ago).
We have the power 100% sure the police were not responsible.

We have a president whose first thought, whose first speach was for the police deputy who had been injured.
Nothing about the school, the library, the garage yet.
Nothing about the investigation on the accident (many people don't believe the police car was driving at a regular speed, seeing the impact on its left; many people find it also odd that the motorbike and its fork look intact when it has slided on nearly 35 meters) yet.

Things have been quieter last night.
Probably because it took place in a city where poverty isn't as high as its neighbour towns, and probably because they put 1000 CRS.
The CRS are police forces that were created way before the birth of the internet for times of crisis and to prevent violence among demonstrations; and you've got to know, fellow Australian reader, cheerful Oklahoma truant, that Sarkozy kicked the regular police out of these places 5 years ago, when he was a minister, to replace these regular forces who could look like human beings by these CRS who are trained to offer the most frightening face to whoever they meet.
Add to that that controls in the ghetto towns are high. Police check your identity, in order to spot foreigners to expell from France. You see, we have to get rid of a certain amount of ugly foreigners every year. 250 000 is that? Or 25 000? I can't recall.

Recently, a former French police worker, a French citizen nearly got expelled to Morocco on her flight back to France. The poor woman is black. She's had a child recently, and her body still has the marks of bearing a child. When she handed her passport at the airport, the French guy there said : it ain't you on the picture, it's a fake, we're not letting you in. She had to prove who she was, and her time within the French police forces were helpful, as she knew what was supposed to be done. And there was a gap between what's supposed to be done and the way they treated her rights.

But that's off topic.
We shall remain focused on a spot of the picture.

HECKLER SPRAY · 11.28.2007, 10:05 AM

I think we should wait for the conclusion of the justice investigations before saying who's responsible. It'll be difficult 'cause they burnt the car and the bike.
By luck, our justice is still independant.
I think mad violence is not the good way to express your angst.
It sounds foolish, but it's the way I think.

lalie · 11.28.2007, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Bertrand

You see, we have to get rid of a certain amount of ugly foreigners every year. 250 000 is that? Or 25 000? I can't recall.

Yes, and it sounds like they want us to feel proud about it, that they're even breaking families. I don't get it.

Finding out who is responsible for that crash is not going to solve the problems in those suburbs. That kind of accident could happen again and again unfortunately...

demonrail666 · 11.28.2007, 03:12 PM

ban teenagers. it's the only answer.

saoq · 11.28.2007, 05:19 PM

ah...the rabble.
as far as tactics go, the rioters seem to be better organised than they were in 2005. more flare-guns, better coordination, etc.
120 pigs injured and counting.
we need someone like Auguste Blanqui, no?

!@#$%! · 11.28.2007, 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saoq

ah...the rabble.
as far as tactics go, the rioters seem to be better organised than they were in 2005. more flare-guns, better coordination, etc.
120 pigs injured and counting.
we need someone like Auguste Blanqui, no?

ha ha ha. good to know some people have heard of this guy.

i once photocopied his manual for street fighting

anyway, im reading everyone's posts here with interest.

!@#$%! · 11.28.2007, 05:39 PM

whoa demon i was replying but then you deleted your thing

the cops have been killing arabs with relative impunity for decades

these immigrants also (unlike, say, in the u.s.) remain political & economical outsiders.

why exactly or how, i'm not sure.

demonrail666 · 11.28.2007, 05:44 PM

Sorry, deleted it because I read through the previous posts and it looked from those that it wasn't racially motivated. I think it's likely that racial tensions are becoming an ever increasing factor in these types of outbursts, just as they are in the UK.

!@#$%! · 11.28.2007, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by demonrail666

Sorry, deleted it because I read through the previous posts and it looked from those that it wasn't racially motivated. I think it's likely that racial tensions are becoming an ever increasing factor in these types of outbursts, just as they are in the UK.

i don't think it's so much "racial" as it is cultural.

11.27.2007, 06:09 AM	#1
SynthethicalY invito al cielo Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 7,408	I just read something about it, what are they rioting about?
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11.27.2007, 06:29 AM	#2
HECKLER SPRAY invito al cielo Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Near Paris, France Posts: 3,762	In fact, there were 2 young people (15 and 16) on a pocket bike ithout helmet who crashed in a police car anf died. The witnesses said the policemen were not responsible but the youngs friends don't believe them, and they started burning everything. they bruned a lot of cars, a school, a public library, a garage... And injured a lot of policemen. Fucking bastards... Hopefully for me, it happened in the northern suburbs and I live in the southern suburbs. __________________
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11.27.2007, 02:51 PM	#3
m1rr0r dash invito al cielo Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: atari Posts: 2,228	i hadn't been born yet, and i don't live in paris. but i have been affected. Nous sommes tous des Juifs allemands!! __________________
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11.27.2007, 02:56 PM	#4
Rob Instigator invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: In the land of the Instigator Posts: 27,975	The people say that the police did nothing to help the two youths and that they actually left them there. fuck the police comin straight from the underground... __________________ RXTT's Intellectual Journey - my new blog where I talk about all the books I read.
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11.27.2007, 03:00 PM	#5
racehorse 100% Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 784	apparently 70 buildings and cars have been burnt down,, including a library and two schools. __________________ She holds the room up by talk alone
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11.27.2007, 03:37 PM	#6
m1rr0r dash invito al cielo Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: atari Posts: 2,228	...oh you mean these new school stylee riots? stop au carnage et paix a la memoire de Moushin et Larami. __________________
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11.27.2007, 05:38 PM	#8
Rob Instigator invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: In the land of the Instigator Posts: 27,975	accepte vous le carte du credi? __________________ RXTT's Intellectual Journey - my new blog where I talk about all the books I read.
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11.27.2007, 05:45 PM	#9
gualbert the end of the ugly Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,088	oui.donne le numero moi.that is very bon.( I can use it )
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11.27.2007, 08:20 PM	#11
gualbert the end of the ugly Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,088	No , I was refering to Daniel Cohn-Bendit , who’s the one who said : we are all german jews! / Nous sommes tous des Juifs allemands!! , back in 1968. ( he is a german jew , but what’s the point ?! ) Since then , he has become mayor of Frankfurt , and a member of the european parliament , where he earns several thousands euros a month for raising his arm between two naps . I think he can’t lead a revolution out of that .
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11.28.2007, 10:05 AM	#13
HECKLER SPRAY invito al cielo Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Near Paris, France Posts: 3,762	I think we should wait for the conclusion of the justice investigations before saying who's responsible. It'll be difficult 'cause they burnt the car and the bike. By luck, our justice is still independant. I think mad violence is not the good way to express your angst. It sounds foolish, but it's the way I think. __________________
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11.28.2007, 03:12 PM	#15
demonrail666 invito al cielo Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 18,510	ban teenagers. it's the only answer.
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11.28.2007, 05:19 PM	#16
saoq bad moon rising Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 101	ah...the rabble. as far as tactics go, the rioters seem to be better organised than they were in 2005. more flare-guns, better coordination, etc. 120 pigs injured and counting. we need someone like Auguste Blanqui, no?
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11.28.2007, 05:39 PM	#18
!@#$%! invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: mars attacks Posts: 42,564	whoa demon i was replying but then you deleted your thing the cops have been killing arabs with relative impunity for decades these immigrants also (unlike, say, in the u.s.) remain political & economical outsiders. why exactly or how, i'm not sure.
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11.28.2007, 05:44 PM	#19
demonrail666 invito al cielo Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 18,510	Sorry, deleted it because I read through the previous posts and it looked from those that it wasn't racially motivated. I think it's likely that racial tensions are becoming an ever increasing factor in these types of outbursts, just as they are in the UK.
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