SPIN insults us al with their Top 100 "alternative" music drummers list

Rob Instigator · 06.27.2013, 02:02 PM

http://www.spin.com/articles/best-dr...rnative-music/

Jesus fuck these things make me mad. I could really give a fuck , but it is such a disservice to the genius of Steve Shelley to post him at 98 (NINETY-EIGHT!!!!???!!!) and have the fucking dipshit from Bow Wow Wow one step ahead of him? the fucker from Deerhoof at 94?

The drummer from the GoGo's at 87????????????

FUUUUCKKKKK

halgreen · 06.27.2013, 02:06 PM

I can't even get it to work, I'm stuck on the dude from The Feelies. But I see that Dave Grohl made number 1...

Rob Instigator · 06.27.2013, 02:11 PM

I stopped at # 70 or so. I could not stand the stupidity. To put Big Black's drum machine in there is plain stupid, trying to be funny.

GravitySlips · 06.27.2013, 02:15 PM

Deerhoof's drummer is pretty good!

Rob Instigator · 06.27.2013, 02:31 PM

Too bad this is not a "pretty good" drummers list.

Maybe it should have been?

GravitySlips · 06.27.2013, 02:41 PM

Well, I'm understating it. I think Deerhoof's drummer is excellent. When I saw them live he was by far the best aspect of the band. I'm not a big fan of Deerhoof but on the stuff I like, it's the drumming that impresses me most.

His role in that band is very different from Steve's role in SY. Who's "better"? I don't know, really. Both great drummers who do very different things. Depends what you look for in your beatz.

The fact the Grizzly Bear drummer is ahead of both of them is brutal. Can't be bothered reading more.

Rob Instigator · 06.27.2013, 02:45 PM

I hear that. It is like walking a gauntlet of misguided admiration for second-rate drumming. dave Grohl at Number 1? If it is to be a "best" alternative band drummers, I would personally put either Tim "Herb" Alexander on top (I know, "Primus sucks," but that man is a BEAST on the skins) or Mitch Mitchell. (if Hendrix Experience can be considered alternative)

chocolate_ladyland · 06.27.2013, 03:43 PM

the list is better backwards

since when are black sabbath, slayer and all R&B/jazz drummers considered alternative? I think spin just wants to piss off list-obsessive classic rock fans

raiinking · 06.27.2013, 03:59 PM

I was absolutely mortified by that list. Lori Barbero was shunned completely. Grizzley bear is a fucking footnote on the history of alt rock

chocolate_ladyland · 06.27.2013, 10:32 PM

and where the fuck is mac mcneilly?

SonikJesus · 06.28.2013, 12:12 AM

yea that list sucked. though i do like they put grohl at 1. Him and shelley are def my two favorite drummers. I didnt expect him to be at the very top though but at least pretty high up.

dasx · 06.28.2013, 06:29 AM

And Brendan Canty is #88? Joey Baron is #70? Whaat?! I'm glad to see that there's Stewart Copeland #3, Jaki Liebezeit #6 and Dave Lombardo #11, but overall this is a crappy list.

evollove · 06.28.2013, 08:04 AM

--Topper Headon at 81? He's in the top ten. There are some Clash boots where I'd swear there are three different drummers on stage. The word "genius" gets thrown around a lot, but he really was a master of the instrument.

--Palmolive? Pretty cool.

--Clyde Stubblefield and John "Jabo" Starks at #2 is wise and respectful. Really, the most influential drummers on the list; for better or worse, music today would sound very different without their beats. Contemporary black music flows from these gents. Just not sure James Brown is really all that "alternative."

Rob Instigator · 06.28.2013, 08:13 AM

"alternative" is a stupid designation. All black artists were "alternatives" to the white radio and white billboard lists. They used to call them "race" records.

Elvis was a hero to most, but he never meant shit to me. See, a straight-out racist the sucker was simple and plain. Motherfuck him and John Wayne.

Bytor Peltor · 06.28.2013, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator

Mitch Mitchell. (if Hendrix Experience can be considered alternative)

If they can list: Clyde Stubblefield and John "Jabo" Starks (James Brown), then Mitch Mitchell is a NO doubter!

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Originally Posted by chocolate_ladyland

since when are black sabbath, slayer and all R&B/jazz drummers considered alternative?

Slayer is as alternative as Rush - Neil Pert should be on the list!

Biggest disrespect (other than Steve at 98), Joey Baron aka Naked City / John Zorn at #70.

And why no love for, Emmett Jefferson "Murph" Murphy III of Dinosaur Jr.?

Rob Instigator · 06.28.2013, 09:16 AM

No love for Murph.

Bytor Peltor · 06.28.2013, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator

No love for Murph.

If he was listed, I sure clicked over it.

stateyourrights · 06.28.2013, 02:24 PM

no offense to any one. steve is a very unique and fitting drummer for sy and i couldnt see anyone else in his place but he's not the best drummer in the alternative world. He certainly is really good. please dont take this the wrong way.

sonic sphere · 06.28.2013, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator

No love for Murph.

he's not even the best drummer in dinosaur jr.

Rob Instigator · 06.28.2013, 02:51 PM

As far as Steve goes, I would def have placed him in the top 70. Thank goodness they did not list Meg White ahead of him though....

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Rob Instigator invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: In the land of the Instigator Posts: 27,971	http://www.spin.com/articles/best-dr...rnative-music/ Jesus fuck these things make me mad. I could really give a fuck , but it is such a disservice to the genius of Steve Shelley to post him at 98 (NINETY-EIGHT!!!!???!!!) and have the fucking dipshit from Bow Wow Wow one step ahead of him? the fucker from Deerhoof at 94? The drummer from the GoGo's at 87???????????? FUUUUCKKKKK __________________ RXTT's Intellectual Journey - my new blog where I talk about all the books I read.
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06.27.2013, 02:11 PM	#3
Rob Instigator invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: In the land of the Instigator Posts: 27,971	I stopped at # 70 or so. I could not stand the stupidity. To put Big Black's drum machine in there is plain stupid, trying to be funny. __________________ RXTT's Intellectual Journey - my new blog where I talk about all the books I read.
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GravitySlips children of satan Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 373	Deerhoof's drummer is pretty good!
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Rob Instigator invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: In the land of the Instigator Posts: 27,971	Too bad this is not a "pretty good" drummers list. Maybe it should have been? __________________ RXTT's Intellectual Journey - my new blog where I talk about all the books I read.
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Rob Instigator invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: In the land of the Instigator Posts: 27,971	I hear that. It is like walking a gauntlet of misguided admiration for second-rate drumming. dave Grohl at Number 1? If it is to be a "best" alternative band drummers, I would personally put either Tim "Herb" Alexander on top (I know, "Primus sucks," but that man is a BEAST on the skins) or Mitch Mitchell. (if Hendrix Experience can be considered alternative) __________________ RXTT's Intellectual Journey - my new blog where I talk about all the books I read.
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halgreen stalker Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 468	I can't even get it to work, I'm stuck on the dude from The Feelies. But I see that Dave Grohl made number 1...
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GravitySlips children of satan Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 373	Well, I'm understating it. I think Deerhoof's drummer is excellent. When I saw them live he was by far the best aspect of the band. I'm not a big fan of Deerhoof but on the stuff I like, it's the drumming that impresses me most. His role in that band is very different from Steve's role in SY. Who's "better"? I don't know, really. Both great drummers who do very different things. Depends what you look for in your beatz. The fact the Grizzly Bear drummer is ahead of both of them is brutal. Can't be bothered reading more.
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chocolate_ladyland children of satan Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Toronto, ON Posts: 341	the list is better backwards since when are black sabbath, slayer and all R&B/jazz drummers considered alternative? I think spin just wants to piss off list-obsessive classic rock fans __________________
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raiinking little trouble girl Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Valdosta, Ga Posts: 66	I was absolutely mortified by that list. Lori Barbero was shunned completely. Grizzley bear is a fucking footnote on the history of alt rock
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chocolate_ladyland children of satan Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Toronto, ON Posts: 341	and where the fuck is mac mcneilly? __________________
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SonikJesus the end of the ugly Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 998	yea that list sucked. though i do like they put grohl at 1. Him and shelley are def my two favorite drummers. I didnt expect him to be at the very top though but at least pretty high up.
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dasx children of satan Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Helsinki, Finland Posts: 307	And Brendan Canty is #88? Joey Baron is #70? Whaat?! I'm glad to see that there's Stewart Copeland #3, Jaki Liebezeit #6 and Dave Lombardo #11, but overall this is a crappy list. __________________ www.soundcloud.com/black-spy www.soundcloud.com/haikala
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evollove invito al cielo Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 2,879	--Topper Headon at 81? He's in the top ten. There are some Clash boots where I'd swear there are three different drummers on stage. The word "genius" gets thrown around a lot, but he really was a master of the instrument. --Palmolive? Pretty cool. --Clyde Stubblefield and John "Jabo" Starks at #2 is wise and respectful. Really, the most influential drummers on the list; for better or worse, music today would sound very different without their beats. Contemporary black music flows from these gents. Just not sure James Brown is really all that "alternative."
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Rob Instigator invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: In the land of the Instigator Posts: 27,971	"alternative" is a stupid designation. All black artists were "alternatives" to the white radio and white billboard lists. They used to call them "race" records. Elvis was a hero to most, but he never meant shit to me. See, a straight-out racist the sucker was simple and plain. Motherfuck him and John Wayne. __________________ RXTT's Intellectual Journey - my new blog where I talk about all the books I read.
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Rob Instigator invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: In the land of the Instigator Posts: 27,971	No love for Murph. __________________ RXTT's Intellectual Journey - my new blog where I talk about all the books I read.
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stateyourrights empty page Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 20	no offense to any one. steve is a very unique and fitting drummer for sy and i couldnt see anyone else in his place but he's not the best drummer in the alternative world. He certainly is really good. please dont take this the wrong way.
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Rob Instigator invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: In the land of the Instigator Posts: 27,971	As far as Steve goes, I would def have placed him in the top 70. Thank goodness they did not list Meg White ahead of him though.... __________________ RXTT's Intellectual Journey - my new blog where I talk about all the books I read.
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