the thread with val-holla-ing decides his fate

!@#$%! · 03.21.2007, 10:40 AM

since the "how was your day" thread was kinda all over the place, i thought i'd pick up this discussion in its own thread. and without any redeeming display of modesty i'll quote myself here-- actually it was the last post to deal with this i think... except that t&b wants to be a plumber.

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Originally Posted by Savage Clone

I had some savings and went to a cheap school. I wasn't referring to my personal situation.
I was speaking in the general sense regarding debt, as most college-bound folks seem to incur quite the mountain of debt in the present climate.
Yes, statistically the odds are in your favor with the degree; all I am saying is that there are nuances within that statistical construct and nothing is guaranteed.

oh oh... wait a second, i thought of this. i assure you i'm not trying to be a total pain in the ass.

but see, after you left college, you had no debt and bought a house.

now, if you had stayed, you would still have no debt, and you would still have bought a house, but you'd have a college degree also.

now, i don't know if you would have been able to use that degree, but generally speaking there are more advantageous employment opportunities for people with a degree-- even on a temporary basis.

and to contrast your particular friend with the mfa who works at a coffee shop, i have a friend with an mfa-- in poetry no less-- who is doing great. she used to be my TA in college. she's published a couple of books, enjoys a tenured position in a liberal arts college, has been a state poet laureate, lectures, travels, and makes quite a decent living while pursuing what she likes, with all the perks of a tenured position, including sabbatical years of course.

now there are also people with advanced degrees working as permanent adjuncts-- people who get paid by the course. they will be forever fucked. for various logistical reasons i was set to be one of them, and so i quit & started working on my own. however, the MA has opened quite a few doors, and i can assure you my grad school experience didn't go to waste. even if i don't directly use my studies today, having to teach for several years was quite a formative experience.

anyway, i certainly do not believe that college is for everyone, and a lot of people would be better served by a trade or technical school, but for those who can put it to good use, having some sort of degree is a lot better than having none. statistically, sure. but i do like my chances.

!@#$%! · 03.21.2007, 11:09 AM

PUTA MERDA

i meant to say "where" ... decides his fate. not 'with". sleep deprivation is a bitch.

SynthethicalY · 03.21.2007, 11:11 AM

Did you not get any sleep last night. Oh yes now I know why I came to the library to use the internet for.

!@#$%! · 03.21.2007, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by SynthethicalY

Did you not get any sleep last night. Oh yes now I know why I came to the library to use the internet for.

1 hour maybe. suxx.

SynthethicalY · 03.21.2007, 11:13 AM

AH I got three at least, and one more in my car. So in total four hours of sleep.

!@#$%! · 03.21.2007, 11:14 AM

what about this college bit.

SynthethicalY · 03.21.2007, 11:17 AM

I say this chap should stay in college and get his degree.

!@#$%! · 03.21.2007, 11:22 AM

is he avoiding this thread? that would be funny.

SynthethicalY · 03.21.2007, 11:23 AM

I think he is, he is not a sucker like our fellow swa(y).

val-holla-ing · 03.21.2007, 11:24 AM

i'm in class right now and it's killing me!!!! KILLING MEEEEE!!!!!!!!!

i'm gonna tough it out for now, though. i'll probably keep having these not-so-brief moments of doubt, because i hate this school, my teachers, my classmates, and what i'm being taught. i'm a trooper, though.

val-holla-ing · 03.21.2007, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by SynthethicalY

I think he is, he is not a sucker like our fellow swa(y).

man, i am SO here!

!@#$%! · 03.21.2007, 11:25 AM

dude do you have an academic advisor that could help you weasel out honorably? i mean w/ diploma in hand?

val-holla-ing · 03.21.2007, 11:27 AM

no way! she's the reason i've been in school for so long. she often "forgets" to tell students that they have to take certain classes to carry on with their degree's.

SynthethicalY · 03.21.2007, 11:28 AM

Can't you get a new one?

val-holla-ing · 03.21.2007, 11:28 AM

nope, there's only one for the entire school of music.

SynthethicalY · 03.21.2007, 11:29 AM

I see. Well I have to go to class.

val-holla-ing · 03.21.2007, 11:30 AM

have fun!

!@#$%! · 03.21.2007, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by val-holla-ing

nope, there's only one for the entire school of music.

MUST you graduate in music? could you go to say "liberal arts" & call it a BA?

val-holla-ing · 03.21.2007, 11:36 AM

i guess i could, but then all of my effort would be wasted and i probably wouldn't be able to get into grad school as easily.

i think my biggest issue is that i'm trying to do too much while i'm in school. i work two jobs and i play in two bands outside of school. i really think that if i quit one of my jobs or just got a better one, i wouldn't be nearly as stressed out.

!@#$%! · 03.21.2007, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by val-holla-ing

i guess i could, but then all of my effort would be wasted and i probably wouldn't be able to get into grad school as easily.

not really... well not sure. but better to get some BA than none no?

you can even come back & take the extra classes later when you feel like it. maybe apply towards 2nd major or something.

what you should do, is find out what grad schools are looking for, and if a b.a. in music is a strict requirement, or not.

03.21.2007, 11:09 AM	#2
!@#$%! invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: mars attacks Posts: 42,564	PUTA MERDA i meant to say "where" ... decides his fate. not 'with". sleep deprivation is a bitch.
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03.21.2007, 11:11 AM	#3
SynthethicalY invito al cielo Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 7,408	Did you not get any sleep last night. Oh yes now I know why I came to the library to use the internet for.
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03.21.2007, 11:13 AM	#5
SynthethicalY invito al cielo Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 7,408	AH I got three at least, and one more in my car. So in total four hours of sleep.
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03.21.2007, 11:14 AM	#6
!@#$%! invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: mars attacks Posts: 42,564	what about this college bit.
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03.21.2007, 11:17 AM	#7
SynthethicalY invito al cielo Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 7,408	I say this chap should stay in college and get his degree.
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03.21.2007, 11:22 AM	#8
!@#$%! invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: mars attacks Posts: 42,564	is he avoiding this thread? that would be funny.
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03.21.2007, 11:23 AM	#9
SynthethicalY invito al cielo Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 7,408	I think he is, he is not a sucker like our fellow swa(y).
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03.21.2007, 11:24 AM	#10
val-holla-ing invito al cielo Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: baton rouge. the 225, big raggedy. Posts: 2,731	i'm in class right now and it's killing me!!!! KILLING MEEEEE!!!!!!!!! i'm gonna tough it out for now, though. i'll probably keep having these not-so-brief moments of doubt, because i hate this school, my teachers, my classmates, and what i'm being taught. i'm a trooper, though. __________________ please do not misconstrue the previous statement as an invitation for same sex relations or as negative towards anyone of another sexuality. -cam'ron (formerly "no homo")
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03.21.2007, 11:25 AM	#12
!@#$%! invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: mars attacks Posts: 42,564	dude do you have an academic advisor that could help you weasel out honorably? i mean w/ diploma in hand?
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03.21.2007, 11:27 AM	#13
val-holla-ing invito al cielo Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: baton rouge. the 225, big raggedy. Posts: 2,731	no way! she's the reason i've been in school for so long. she often "forgets" to tell students that they have to take certain classes to carry on with their degree's. __________________ please do not misconstrue the previous statement as an invitation for same sex relations or as negative towards anyone of another sexuality. -cam'ron (formerly "no homo")
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03.21.2007, 11:28 AM	#14
SynthethicalY invito al cielo Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 7,408	Can't you get a new one?
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03.21.2007, 11:29 AM	#16
SynthethicalY invito al cielo Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 7,408	I see. Well I have to go to class.
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03.21.2007, 11:30 AM	#17
val-holla-ing invito al cielo Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: baton rouge. the 225, big raggedy. Posts: 2,731	have fun! __________________ please do not misconstrue the previous statement as an invitation for same sex relations or as negative towards anyone of another sexuality. -cam'ron (formerly "no homo")
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03.21.2007, 11:36 AM	#19
val-holla-ing invito al cielo Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: baton rouge. the 225, big raggedy. Posts: 2,731	i guess i could, but then all of my effort would be wasted and i probably wouldn't be able to get into grad school as easily. i think my biggest issue is that i'm trying to do too much while i'm in school. i work two jobs and i play in two bands outside of school. i really think that if i quit one of my jobs or just got a better one, i wouldn't be nearly as stressed out. __________________ please do not misconstrue the previous statement as an invitation for same sex relations or as negative towards anyone of another sexuality. -cam'ron (formerly "no homo")
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