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Old 07.22.2009, 10:35 AM   #21
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I believe everything is random. I'm working on something right now but I don't know enough right now to explain it. But it involves absolute nothingness and entropy, and some level of thermodynamics.
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Old 07.22.2009, 10:46 AM   #22
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I believe everything is random. I'm working on something right now but I don't know enough right now to explain it. But it involves absolute nothingness and entropy, and some level of thermodynamics.

living in maine you probably need that thermal underwear all winter, so it's good ou believe in it, or you'd freeze your nuts off-- which by the way would not be random at all, but strictly cause-and-effect.
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Old 07.22.2009, 11:25 AM   #23
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living in maine you probably need that thermal underwear all winter, so it's good ou believe in it, or you'd freeze your nuts off-- which by the way would not be random at all, but strictly cause-and-effect.

The thermodynamics and entropy is my case deals with the begining and end of the universe. But I suppose taking cause and effect into account nothing can truely be random, but the cause can be.

And it's not always cold up here. It's actually pretty warm right now. Around 80 degrees.
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Old 07.22.2009, 11:46 AM   #24
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thermodynamics breaks down around the Planck Length.

also, entropy is a finite process. black hole remnants possess zero entropy.

both are evident driving forces of the physical universe (although I hold gravity in higher esteem), but they do not clearly represent the effect of the surrounding planes of the multiverse.

nothing is random. everything has been mathematically predetermined.

the problem is, one can never tell if yr decision to eat cereal instead of waffles this morning was the cause of quantum particles tunneling into yr brain, or if you just "felt like it".

I suspect it's the particles.

thanks to the generalized uncertainty principle, my philosophy will never be complete.
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Old 07.22.2009, 11:48 AM   #25
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Old 07.22.2009, 12:03 PM   #26
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Old 07.22.2009, 12:43 PM   #27
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actually, here is my life philosophy

never pass up an opportunity to take a piss.
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Old 07.22.2009, 12:53 PM   #28
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I vary, but most days I'd probably commit to deontological libertinism. When I'm drunk it's speculative realism.
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Old 07.22.2009, 12:54 PM   #29
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Old 07.22.2009, 01:07 PM   #30
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living in maine you probably need that thermal underwear all winter, so it's good ou believe in it, or you'd freeze your nuts off-- which by the way would not be random at all, but strictly cause-and-effect.

On a micro-scale everything is cause and effect, but on a large scale it appears chaotic, disorderly, and random. Everything is related, but as time goes on, they become more and more unrelated. The events of winter in Maine and a party in Japan are related, they share some common history somewhere, but they diverge into chaos.
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Old 07.22.2009, 01:11 PM   #31
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thermodynamics breaks down around the Planck Length.

also, entropy is a finite process. black hole remnants possess zero entropy.

both are evident driving forces of the physical universe (although I hold gravity in higher esteem), but they do not clearly represent the effect of the surrounding planes of the multiverse.

nothing is random. everything has been mathematically predetermined.

the problem is, one can never tell if yr decision to eat cereal instead of waffles this morning was the cause of quantum particles tunneling into yr brain, or if you just "felt like it".

I suspect it's the particles.

thanks to the generalized uncertainty principle, my philosophy will never be complete.

There is though, the coin flip. You can't accurately predict a coin flip. There are so many variables, and the one flipping the coin doesn't care about those variables. Is it quantum physics that causes the strength of their coin flips to vary from flip to flip? Or the position of the coin on their hand? Or when they catch the coin and flip it? Surely the environmental conditions and their effects on the coin can be measured, but that lack of thought behind the coin flip. The allowed error by the brain creates something truly random.
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Old 07.22.2009, 02:12 PM   #32
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Really, I don't know my philosophy. I think the way I act, believe is the series of fortunate/unfortunate events that have taken in my life. I border on the absurd and sometimes pragmatic attitude.
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Old 07.22.2009, 02:24 PM   #33
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The allowed error by the brain creates something truly random.

apparent randomness =/= truly random

observational limitations can lead to something being perceived as being more "random" than it actually is.

inb4 LOL SO RANDOM XD
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Old 07.22.2009, 02:27 PM   #34
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Old 07.22.2009, 05:18 PM   #35
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Old 07.22.2009, 05:52 PM   #36
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I agree that we can be the end result of the "universe" trying to understand itself, but for me, this has to be a supernatural or spiritual event. The spirit of human beings is what connects us to each other and to the universe in every way.

the spirit is the important part, the flesh is the temporary. If all I am and have been is a collection of dirt and shit than I am truly nothing, and I might as well do as it is written," Eat and drink for tomorrow we shall die!" But there is a hope beyond the temporary. If energy is eternal, and I am made up of energy, then I am eternal. If I have a consciousness in this temporary phase of my eternal existence, than I can only assume that this consciousness will continue on through eternity.

but remember, I do not even believe in the concreteness of the physical universe, it is merely a projection of how the soul interprets the energy (e=mc2) of the universe.. essentially the physical universe is a lovely story, a fabled explanation of the energy (ie, God) of the universe.

We have created our own physical universe in order to make sense of ourselves..
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