[Genteel Death]

Dude, he was a happy man. Let him rest in peace.

[!@#$%!]

Originally Posted by Genteel Death

Dude, he was a happy man.

indeed he was

anyway, not sure if you've read this yet, but here's the tale of a beautiful death:

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/ne...usive-20131106

oh, damn!

[SuchFriendsAreDangerous]

Originally Posted by Genteel Death

Dude, he was a happy man. Let him rest in peace.

Who ever implied he was anything but?

[Mortte Jousimo]

Just listened Metal Machine wholly first time in my life. I loved it totally (believe me or not but to me it was really great way to relax after hard work day)! I really liked also Sally Can´t Dance although it is very different comparing it to Metal Machine. I think SCD is almost as great as Transformer & Berlin. But at the moment Metal Machine is best solo Reed I´ve heard! Next Coney Island...

[The Soup Nazi]

Originally Posted by Mortte Jousimo

Just listened Metal Machine wholly first time in my life. I loved it totally (believe me or not but to me it was really great way to relax after hard work day)! I really liked also Sally Can´t Dance although it is very different comparing it to Metal Machine. I think SCD is almost as great as Transformer & Berlin. But at the moment Metal Machine is best solo Reed I´ve heard! Next Coney Island...

MJ, you are now ready to dig the, um, "organic" version of Metal Machine Music, if you haven't already:

Lou Reed & Zeitkratzer - Metal Machine Music - 2002-03-20 Venice - reseed

There's also an official CD+DVD set (not of this exact performance, of course), but a minty copy commands big bucks on the Interhole (God-DAMMIT am I sick of out-of-print releases...). Watch out for a solo for the ages by Lou on the third movement! If you can't download stuff via Dime, let me know and I'll see what I can do.

Now, a couple of related questions for the board: 1.- A few years ago, Lee mentioned he'd written a piece for Zeitkratzer - does anybody know if this baby can be heard somewhere? 2.- Back to MMM, "on December 01 Zeitkratzer performed the final, so far unreleased part of Metal Machine Music in their Berlin concert as a tribute to Lou" - no recording has surfaced yet? Really? Crap!

[Mortte Jousimo]

Originally Posted by The Soup Nazi

MJ, you are now ready to dig the, um, "organic" version of Metal Machine Music, if you haven't already:

Lou Reed & Zeitkratzer - Metal Machine Music - 2002-03-20 Venice - reseed

There's also an official CD+DVD set (not of this exact performance, of course), but a minty copy commands big bucks on the Interhole (God-DAMMIT am I sick of out-of-print releases...). Watch out for a solo for the ages by Lou on the third movement! If you can't download stuff via Dime, let me know and I'll see what I can do.

Now, a couple of related questions for the board: 1.- A few years ago, Lee mentioned he'd written a piece for Zeitkratzer - does anybody know if this baby can be heard somewhere? 2.- Back to MMM, "on December 01 Zeitkratzer performed the final, so far unreleased part of Metal Machine Music in their Berlin concert as a tribute to Lou" - no recording has surfaced yet? Really? Crap!

Thanx again!!!Yes, I will sure try to find & listen that zeitkratzer-version, after I have listened all he´s made before it (I really have lou-fever going & I really like to listen his works chronologig ). Maybe that other version is even greater, but I am going to buy original vinyl if I just find it in the future (maybe next vinyl happening).

Also just remembered his Metal Machine trio from 2011, but I think they didn´t make any releases, there are just some pieces for example in YouTube?

[The Soup Nazi]

Originally Posted by Mortte Jousimo

Also just remembered his Metal Machine trio from 2011, but I think they didn´t make any releases

What? No, dude, they CREATED THE UNIVERSE! I got that 2CD set from his website when it came out; now it's available from Amazon and whatnot.

 

[Mortte Jousimo]

Originally Posted by The Soup Nazi

What? No, dude, they CREATED THE UNIVERSE! I got that 2CD set from his website when it came out; now it's available from Amazon and whatnot.

 

Many thanx about great information! I looked only Reed`s Wiki-sites and didn´t see there any mention about it. But I just found there were also sites to Metal Machine Trio and also mention about their release. Well I think I have great time with Metal Machine Music in the future

[Bytor Peltor]

Happy Birthday Lou Reed!

Today he would have turned 72.

The Little Willies - Lou Reed

[Mortte Jousimo]

Finally I have listened all his studio & live albums I found (I would really like to hear the Stone: Issue Three with Zorn & Anderson, but I couldn´t find it anywhere). I also listened Lulu & found it a lot better than when I heard it first time, but it´s not still one of my favourite Reed or Metallica records. I think there doesn´t exist bad Reed record. Even when he´s flirting with disco in the Bells or eighties pop in New Sensations and Mistreal, he manages a lot better than many others in same genre. Of course he has weak songs, but there are always also great songs in every album. My favourites at the moment are: Transformer, Berlin (both versions), Metal Machine Music (both versions), Street Hassle, Live-take no prisoners, the Blue Mask, New York, Songs For Drella, Set the Twilight Reeling, American Poet, Hudson River Wind Meditations & Creation of the Universe

[The Soup Nazi]

Originally Posted by Mortte Jousimo

I would really like to hear the Stone: Issue Three with Zorn & Anderson, but I couldn´t find it anywhere

http://www.tzadik.com/index.php?catalog=0004

[Mortte Jousimo]

Originally Posted by The Soup Nazi

http://www.tzadik.com/index.php?catalog=0004

Thanx! I noticed it´s also for sale in discogs. I meaned you can´t listen it anywhere in the internet (all those others were in spotify or YouTube). Just ordered 8 vinyls, so maybe I order this later this year...

[tesla69]

Originally Posted by Mortte Jousimo

Finally I have listened all his studio & live albums I found (I would really like to hear the Stone: Issue Three with Zorn & Anderson, but I couldn´t find it anywhere).

try Downtown Music Gallery online - they always have copies when I stop by.

[Mortte Jousimo]

I got it. And it´s really great, same quality as Berlin, Metal Machine etc.

[The Soup Nazi]

Originally Posted by Mortte Jousimo

I got it. And it´s really great, same quality as Berlin, Metal Machine etc.

It's an excellent record. Having said that, and as much as I like annihilating fuck-you free-jazz/improv sax, I would have preferred it if John Zorn had left more room for Lou's fantastic guitartronics work. When Zorn is flamethrowing all over the place he tends to drown Reed and especially Anderson out. But yes, if you dig Lou Reed (and if you don't... are you retarded or something?), GET IT.

[Mortte Jousimo]

Originally Posted by The Soup Nazi

It's an excellent record. Having said that, and as much as I like annihilating fuck-you free-jazz/improv sax, I would have preferred it if John Zorn had left more room for Lou's fantastic guitartronics work. When Zorn is flamethrowing all over the place he tends to drown Reed and especially Anderson out. But yes, if you dig Lou Reed (and if you don't... are you retarded or something?), GET IT.

Well I don´t think Zorn is too much overwhelming that album. I really like the whole entity! I think Anderson part is just great, because her mysterious playing is not in the front of whole thing.

[Mortte Jousimo]

Just listened the Raven second time (now expanded edition). Maybe it´s not one of his most greatest works, but anyway it´s really interesting! Must listen it many times, I think it will open even more. I think these are among the 20 best songs of him:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQki4_KdWcY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWHdHrqyAJ4

I think it´s really great Lou didn´t just do the records that´s familiar to him in the end of his career. All his after 2000-production is less or more interesting.

Also listened Metal Machine Music Again, it´s sooo great!

[evollove]

Originally Posted by Mortte Jousimo

Finally I have listened all his studio & live albums

Me too. I got PASS THROUGH FIRE: THE COLLECTED LYRICS which sent me back to records I hadn't ever heard or hadn't heard in a while.

Most--all but three or four--suck. Actually, there's always at least one good song on every album. But there's a TON of shit. I think it's pretty sad that, like, BLUE MASK is considered a "good" one. It has about three good tunes on it.

One wants to love Lou. He started VU. He followed the big hit TRANSFORMER with BERLIN, followed the big hit SALLY CAN'T DANCE with MMM. Who wouldn't want to love the guy?

But he makes it very hard. Really, it wasn't until fucking 1989 that he finally released a really good one, NEW YORK, which based upon a recent re-listen strikes me as his greatest achievement. No bullshit, great lyrics, great guitars. He could've been doing this all along.

I blame Bowie.

[Mortte Jousimo]

Originally Posted by evollove

Me too. I got PASS THROUGH FIRE: THE COLLECTED LYRICS which sent me back to records I hadn't ever heard or hadn't heard in a while.

Most--all but three or four--suck. Actually, there's always at least one good song on every album. But there's a TON of shit. I think it's pretty sad that, like, BLUE MASK is considered a "good" one. It has about three good tunes on it.

One wants to love Lou. He started VU. He followed the big hit TRANSFORMER with BERLIN, followed the big hit SALLY CAN'T DANCE with MMM. Who wouldn't want to love the guy?

But he makes it very hard. Really, it wasn't until fucking 1989 that he finally released a really good one, NEW YORK, which based upon a recent re-listen strikes me as his greatest achievement. No bullshit, great lyrics, great guitars. He could've been doing this all along.

I blame Bowie.

I just don´t want to love Lou, I love Lou (well actually his music).