Skullflower - Page 2

Toilet & Bowels · 02.12.2019, 10:35 AM

Yeah but nobody talked about that kind priviledge in the 70s. They were dumb kids who wised up pretty fast. I mean if we were teenagers in 1976 who knows what we would have done.... especially you.

Savage Clone · 02.12.2019, 10:43 AM

True enough. It does seem that some people get to live down their youth and others don't though. I do know that I have ceased a few imagery and fashion things because it definitely makes people misjudge me and I've seen it hurt people that I know enough not to engage in certain trappings just because they are interesting in an occult way or were fascinating for one reason or another. I have never been a right-wing person and I don't really need to invite headaches when I can engage any number of interest and be artistically satisfied. I don't like this era of litmus tests and I do think the art and the artist can be separated if the art is non political in nature, but this is not really a time for expecting nuanced thinking out of people. Given the state of the world, ambiguity and such are not really a great path to take these days.

Toilet & Bowels · 02.12.2019, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Savage Clone

I guess I'm just saying it's a little mystifying who gets a pass and who doesn't, and for what. And who gets to live stuff down and who doesn't, and for how long. This goes for both legitimate and overblown claims alike.

It seems to work on how much of your fanbase gives a shit, and if there are enough of them for you to carry on regardless, e.g. Morrissey.

Savage Clone · 02.12.2019, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Toilet & Bowels

It seems to work on how much of your fanbase gives a shit, and if there are enough of them for you to carry on regardless, e.g. Morrissey.

Another primo example. There are more than a few. But he's a great one.

Toilet & Bowels · 02.12.2019, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Savage Clone

I do know that I have ceased a few imagery and fashion things because it definitely makes people misjudge me and I've seen it hurt people

That's why I had not be facebook friends with colleagues anymore.

halgreen · 02.12.2019, 11:23 AM

Pity he's gone off the deep end. I remember seeing Neil Campbell from Vibracathedral pointing out Bowers's Brexit rant a few years back. It seems to have been an open secret in that scene that Bowers is probably a fascist sympathizer.

Toilet & Bowels · 02.12.2019, 02:04 PM

Whst did he say about Brexit?

Toilet & Bowels · 02.12.2019, 02:08 PM

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthew_Bower

On a side note, read to the bottom of the skullflower section. Mutant Ape used to post here, eons ago. I wonder if he's a nazi too.

Toilet & Bowels · 02.12.2019, 02:33 PM

https://thequietus.com/articles/2602...fascism-racism

Bytor Peltor · 02.12.2019, 02:43 PM

Boyd Rice, John Zewizz and Douglas P all come to mind. I don’t believe any of the three are very active on social media, which might be the biggest difference?

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Originally Posted by Savage Clone

I guess I'm just saying it's a little mystifying who gets a pass and who doesn't, and for what. And who gets to live stuff down and who doesn't, and for how long. This goes for both legitimate and overblown claims alike.

Savage Clone · 02.12.2019, 02:55 PM

Boyd rice is actually reasonably active on Instagram, believe it or not.

Derek · 03.29.2019, 10:07 AM

Yeah and he's clearly a pathetic old man trying to squeeze his fat fascist ass into skinny jeans

Derek · 03.29.2019, 10:09 AM

Anyone wanna buy my Skullflower CDs? I've got the one that goes ZZZZTTTT SCREEEEEEEEEEEE BZZZZZZTTTTTTTt

Toilet & Bowels · 03.29.2019, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Savage Clone

Boyd rice is actually reasonably active on Instagram, believe it or not.

Do you follow any other white supremacists on Instagram?

Savage Clone · 03.30.2019, 08:01 AM

Not to my knowledge, since I'm not into Morrissey's solo career.

Toilet & Bowels · 03.30.2019, 09:35 AM

I really liked the black metal band benighted leams and i found out that guy is really far out in terms of right wing politics to the point of being actually scary, it's a shame because the guy is also a very talented painter.

I knew Varg was a scum bag but I still bought a couple of Burzum records, which isn't sonething i would do now. Also the guy is a total lunatic (who would have guessed a guy who murdered his friend to prove he was more evil than him was a lunatic?) if his youtube video diaries are anything to go by.

jimbrim · 04.08.2019, 03:46 PM

I bizarrely found a Sunroof! album for sale in a local charity shop over the weekend, sandwiched between Travis and Will Young CDs! This was such a weird finding that I just assumed it was donated by someone locally who had second thoughts about owning Bower's music after recent accusations. I was then faced with the dilemma of whether or not I should buy an album made by someone whose views I find deplorable, but ended up buying the album anyway for a whopping £1 which went to the British Heart Foundation.

02.12.2019, 10:35 AM	#21
Toilet & Bowels invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northern Europe Posts: 12,298	Yeah but nobody talked about that kind priviledge in the 70s. They were dumb kids who wised up pretty fast. I mean if we were teenagers in 1976 who knows what we would have done.... especially you.
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02.12.2019, 10:43 AM	#22
Savage Clone invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 11,290	True enough. It does seem that some people get to live down their youth and others don't though. I do know that I have ceased a few imagery and fashion things because it definitely makes people misjudge me and I've seen it hurt people that I know enough not to engage in certain trappings just because they are interesting in an occult way or were fascinating for one reason or another. I have never been a right-wing person and I don't really need to invite headaches when I can engage any number of interest and be artistically satisfied. I don't like this era of litmus tests and I do think the art and the artist can be separated if the art is non political in nature, but this is not really a time for expecting nuanced thinking out of people. Given the state of the world, ambiguity and such are not really a great path to take these days.
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02.12.2019, 11:23 AM	#26
halgreen stalker Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 469	Pity he's gone off the deep end. I remember seeing Neil Campbell from Vibracathedral pointing out Bowers's Brexit rant a few years back. It seems to have been an open secret in that scene that Bowers is probably a fascist sympathizer.
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02.12.2019, 02:04 PM	#27
Toilet & Bowels invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northern Europe Posts: 12,298	Whst did he say about Brexit?
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02.12.2019, 02:08 PM	#28
Toilet & Bowels invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northern Europe Posts: 12,298	https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthew_Bower On a side note, read to the bottom of the skullflower section. Mutant Ape used to post here, eons ago. I wonder if he's a nazi too.
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02.12.2019, 02:33 PM	#29
Toilet & Bowels invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northern Europe Posts: 12,298	https://thequietus.com/articles/2602...fascism-racism
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02.12.2019, 02:55 PM	#31
Savage Clone invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 11,290	Boyd rice is actually reasonably active on Instagram, believe it or not.
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03.29.2019, 10:07 AM	#32
Derek invito al cielo Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 8,095	Yeah and he's clearly a pathetic old man trying to squeeze his fat fascist ass into skinny jeans
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03.29.2019, 10:09 AM	#33
Derek invito al cielo Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 8,095	Anyone wanna buy my Skullflower CDs? I've got the one that goes ZZZZTTTT SCREEEEEEEEEEEE BZZZZZZTTTTTTTt
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03.30.2019, 08:01 AM	#35
Savage Clone invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 11,290	Not to my knowledge, since I'm not into Morrissey's solo career.
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03.30.2019, 09:35 AM	#36
Toilet & Bowels invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northern Europe Posts: 12,298	I really liked the black metal band benighted leams and i found out that guy is really far out in terms of right wing politics to the point of being actually scary, it's a shame because the guy is also a very talented painter. I knew Varg was a scum bag but I still bought a couple of Burzum records, which isn't sonething i would do now. Also the guy is a total lunatic (who would have guessed a guy who murdered his friend to prove he was more evil than him was a lunatic?) if his youtube video diaries are anything to go by.
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04.08.2019, 03:46 PM	#37
jimbrim expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: UK Posts: 1,308	I bizarrely found a Sunroof! album for sale in a local charity shop over the weekend, sandwiched between Travis and Will Young CDs! This was such a weird finding that I just assumed it was donated by someone locally who had second thoughts about owning Bower's music after recent accusations. I was then faced with the dilemma of whether or not I should buy an album made by someone whose views I find deplorable, but ended up buying the album anyway for a whopping £1 which went to the British Heart Foundation.
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