[Genteel Death 2]

Anyone been following this rape case in France? I'm convinced more than ever that heteresexual males should have surveillance cameras installed inside their bodies because they are obviously the most dangerous creatures on this planet.

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Originally Posted by Genteel Death 2

Anyone been following this rape case in France?

not really following but it's fucking bizarre. the guy is mentally ill. i'm not saying this as an argument for the defense but it's some really weird shit

Originally Posted by Genteel Death 2

I'm convinced more than ever that heteresexual males should have surveillance cameras installed inside their bodies because they are obviously the most dangerous creatures on this planet.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reynhard_Sinaga

[Genteel Death 2]

Originally Posted by !@#$%!

not really following but it's fucking bizarre. the guy is mentally ill. i'm not saying this as an argument for the defense but it's some really weird shit


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reynhard_Sinaga

Just some isolated harmless fun!

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Originally Posted by Genteel Death 2

Just some isolated harmless fun!

i often have trouble missing the tone of british posters

for example, here i can't tell if:

a) you're being sarcastic about my implication that these monsters are isolated cases, hence implying it's a widespread systematic thing with members of our sex,

or

b) you're making a joke about the gay rapist being isolated harmless fun, while the hetero rapist remains the monster

anyway, b) would be a very funny joke (i laughed at the "excuse"). to me, b) wins

but anyway a penis cam surveillance would quickly be subverted for perverted purposes im sure

imagine the oceans of troll porn and leaked footage. perfectly loving and consensual partners being intruded upon by government cops like in some stasi operation. or imagine the blackshirts falling upon your communist cock as you're absentmindedly pissing in a public toilet. ooof!

[verme (prevaricator)]

Maybe we should have surveillance cameras installed inside bugchasers, but people like marras would simply jerk off to the footage.

[Genteel Death 2]

Originally Posted by !@#$%!

b) you're making a joke about the gay rapist being isolated harmless fun, while the hetero rapist remains the monster

B. I'm aware of that guy and obviously he's a vile human being.

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Originally Posted by Genteel Death 2

B. I'm aware of that guy and obviously he's a vile human being.

of course he is and i'm sure you knew

my point here was that we are dealing with words on a screen, so they can be read in different ways, and the meaning is rarely 100% clear. "words are the source of misunderstandings" said the fox to the little prince

to me reading your "harmless fun" comment as a joke implied you making a joke on purpose, not you being ignorant or stupid. i wasn't being sarcastic about your answer, i just though "this would be a funny answer" (honestly funny)

but now without the relief of a joke we're stuck with a serious discussion about human nature, the question of evil, and the social role of surveillance. which ok, if you're serious then i'm serious

eta: but if we're serious please try to limit irony and sarcasm or at least mark it clearly because it's hard to tell in writing. at least across cultures/language groups. for irony to work seamlessly it requires a lot of assumptions and agreements, a clear code of reference. and the reference will be lost in export. and with at least two possible meanings (maybe more), one ends up in a yogi berra scenario: "when you see a fork in the road, take it!"

[Antagon]

I think one of the most jarring details is that he found at least (not all the perps were identified, from what I've heard) 50 willing participants in this horrifying act and they mostly came from within the general periphery of the town they were living in. That's some real abyss-behind-the-picket-fence shit there. Gisèle's a trooper for putting them on the spot and seeing this through in a calm and collected manner despite everything.

[Genteel Death 2]

Originally Posted by Antagon

I think one of the most jarring details is that he found at least (not all the perps were identified, from what I've heard) 50 willing participants in this horrifying act and they mostly came from within the general periphery of the town they were living in. That's some real abyss-behind-the-picket-fence shit there. Gisèle's a trooper for putting them on the spot and seeing this through in a calm and collected manner despite everything.

And also one of the most disturbing details is that a few of them did not identify as a rapist because they assumed that there was some consent in the works while they took part in the raping of an unconscious woman on someone's bed, while they had been recruited in some sordid website by her own husband, which should be a calling card by itself. A man she trusted and had been married for a long time, all the while thinking there was nothing wrong.

[Genteel Death 2]

Originally Posted by !@#$%!

to me reading your "harmless fun" comment as a joke implied you making a joke on purpose, not you being ignorant or stupid. i wasn't being sarcastic about your answer, i just though "this would be a funny answer" (honestly funny)

I was making a joke on purpose. Probably not as funny to anyone but myself, so I apologise if it wasn't. Sometimes I should think that my location and experience should give me a clue when writing some shit on the internet. The reason I made a joke was mostly because of awareness of promiscuity and, occasionally, inappropriateness on the gay scene. There is a certain dark humour myself, my partner and some friends use when someone we perceive as being a superficial person go out of their way to find a shag. It was a reference to that and the prolification of 'open relationships', 'throuples' and lack of commitment that are currently popular for a lot of gay men where we live.

[Rob Instigator]

I am in full support of Lorena Bobbit'ing rapists cocks off.


Chop their noses off too, so everyone will know forever that they are useless human beings.

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Originally Posted by Genteel Death 2

I was making a joke on purpose. Probably not as funny to anyone but myself, so I apologise if it wasn't. Sometimes I should think that my location and experience should give me a clue when writing some shit on the internet. The reason I made a joke was mostly because of awareness of promiscuity and, occasionally, inappropriateness on the gay scene. There is a certain dark humour myself, my partner and some friends use when someone we perceive as being a superficial person go out of their way to find a shag. It was a reference to that and the prolification of 'open relationships', 'throuples' and lack of commitment that are currently popular for a lot of gay men where we live.

hahaha! i understood it different, but it was funny either way-- it was flippant, which was the point. flippant in inappropriate situations is funny, and relieves tension

so anyway, my original point of linking the rapist in response to your comment was because you were naming hetero males as the danger. and i was sad to say we're all in the same boat. "boys will be boys" i guess

but no, i mean: sure the male brain has been selected for aggression, we're on average hornier, male couples are on average more sexually active than female couples, with hetero couples roughly in the middle... but even if we're wired for struggle, we don't have to be narcissistic, remorseless psychopaths with no empathy

this is where i find the acts of this man supremely weird. more than sex acts they seem to me more or as some kind of revenge or quasi-murder. because let's start with the fact that before there was any rape this was a poisoning, adding medications to her medication. this wasn't a momentary lapse of reason, a crime of passion, it was a completely cold premeditated and calculated shit, like almost murder. a slow murder

we're talking about doing this to her as an old woman, yes?

im shocked by the self pitying complaints of the narcissist at having been caught, saying that everybody could have continued "having fun" if it wasn't for the inconvenience of his arrest?? totally deranged, not sure if it's a strategy for his legal defense, but wow. the level of delusion

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator

I am in full support of Lorena Bobbit'ing rapists cocks off.


Chop their noses off too, so everyone will know forever that they are useless human beings.

my male brother, this violence you suggest is what we have been naturally selected to do, it seems. i say drag the perp into the woods, hang him from a tree, chop and stuff his cock into his mouth, let him choke to death on it, and leave him to the vultures

or alternatively, a straight clubbing him to death for what he did to grandma. very old fashion

but what happens when those same violent forces take the wrong turn, accidentally or on purpose? where is the socially acceptable application of violence? is it the state's monopoly? at what point do you stop wishing and go cut off the nose or the cock yourself? some theories argue... it should be done preemptively

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i was reading about theories of rape. there are several out there, but the jury still seems to be out on what causes it and how to prevent it

going back to the surveillance bit, which i though was the original motivator... it's so fucking complicated because traditional societies have/had forms of surveillance and rape prevention, but a) some of those strategies are considered intolerable by "modern" approaches, b) even sophisticated social mechanisms generally have not covered rape within the marriage, which i think has only been recognized as such in recent times

[Rob Instigator]

fuck theories.

I think the sad reality is that for much of human existence (at least 250,000 years of homo sapiens sapiens) forcible copulation was the PRIMARY means of intercourse.

We still have a LOT of proto-humans wandering around whose brains/minds are barely developed above that of a mallard duck.

[Rob Instigator]

do NOT go read about how ducks have sex. it is horrible.

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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator

fuck theories.

I think the sad reality is that for much of human existence (at least 250,000 years of homo sapiens sapiens) forcible copulation was the PRIMARY means of intercourse.

We still have a LOT of proto-humans wandering around whose brains/minds are barely developed above that of a mallard duck.

we're all the reptilian protohumans with a thin thin cortex and minor additions. you impair the more developed areas and get a beast instead

but see, here's the thing about this shitty crime, you can't even call it "reproductive" or "animal." it's the opposite of animal

first, if you want to reproduce, you don't invite the sperm of 70 strangers or however many to compete with you. second, they were fucking an old lady well past reproductive age, yes?

this is some other shit altogether. i suspect it's some sick revenge and humiliation scheme on the part of the organizer. who the fuck comes up with this shit? it's too fucking twisted even for french perverts

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator

do NOT go read about how ducks have sex. it is horrible.

fuck a duck! i did worse... i went on to read more about this case... the level of betrayal is something else! it's really fucking sad

[Rob Instigator]

wypepol?

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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator

wypepol?

but remember the jello guy? america's dad or whatever?

[Rob Instigator]

He learned the quaalude rape trick from Hugh Hefner, along with many others.

Have you seen the new pepper spray that dyes skin blue?
I think that is a GREAT idea.

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Originally Posted by Genteel Death 2

Anyone been following this rape case in France? I'm convinced more than ever that ALL males should have surveillance cameras installed inside their bodies because they are obviously the most dangerous creatures on this planet.

fixed that for you

and fuck, after reading more for a while, yes i see what you mean now

"the monster next door"

the wide range of accomplices/participants-- fml!

"ideal couple" "great relationship"?

i keep thinking maybe this was secret payback for her affair... "you fuck me, i fuck you 1000 times"

i can't think of doing this to someone as horny in any way. it's very cruel

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator

Have you seen the new pepper spray that dyes skin blue?
I think that is a GREAT idea.

yup