You British People and Your Unisex Bathrooms in Schools

SynthethicalY · 04.29.2007, 01:49 AM

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/e...on/6591105.stm

The recommendations for new secondary schools also include putting toilet blocks close to staffrooms or offices for subtle supervision.

If the ideas are taken up, urinals would be a thing of the past and privacy would be protected.

Campaigners say crumbling facilities damage pupils' health and well-being.

They say school toilets are recognised as being a trouble-spot for bullying, with some children avoiding going, possibly leading to continence problems.

I don't want my head dunked down the toilet
Pupil's complaint to campaign group
The recommendations cover schools being rebuilt or refurbished under the government's £45bn Building Schools for the Future programme.

Tim Byles, chief executive of the Partnerships for Schools, the agency responsible for the programme, said behaviour could be improved by good design.

"Toilets are recognised as a hotspot for bullies to threaten and intimidate others," he said.

"This is clearly unacceptable. The new standard specifications for toilets in schools means that cramped, dirty and vandalised toilets can become a thing of the past.

RECOMMENDATIONS
Unisex
Central sink troughs
Locking toilets
No urinals
Locking doors
Glass walls
Must be kept clean

"Toilets in BSF schools will no longer provide bullies with places that lend themselves all too readily to anti-social behaviour."

It is suggested that making toilets unisex would discourage pupils from congregating in the area.

The guidelines received a warm welcome from the charity Education and Resources for Improving Childhood Continence (Eric).

The charity's Bog Standard website - which campaigns for better facilities - includes complaints from many children about dirty, threatening environments.

Central wash basins cut flooding risk, experts say

JJ, aged 13, from Swansea, wrote: "I dont like using my toilets. There are always people in there smoking, and they are bullies. I don't want my head dunked down the toilet. When there aren't bullies or smoking in there, they smell, they are dirty, and have no locks".

Jessca, aged 13, from Warwickshire, wrote: "The toilets at my school are terrible they smell there are no seats and no loo roll and no locks on the doors and even no chains because the school cannot be bothered to fix them they have been fixed before but not in the last 6 months and the loo's have not been open for over 4 months ther is over 1300 students at our school and 1 toilet open".

Simon, 13, from South Yorkshire said: "My school toilets stink and are never properly cleaned. People block up the sinks with toilet paper and because the taps are broken they stay on and flood the toilets.

"They also wet toilet paper and throw it everywhere. The locks on the doors don't work and people can open them from the outside so there is no privacy".

Legal requirement

Beverley Leeson from Eric said: "We are very glad that the guidelines have been produced.

"It's a huge issue for pupils and if they are holding on because they don't want to use the toilets or because they aren't allowed to go, it can cause health and well-being problems.

"Some adults think it's not a big issue and say 'we always had terrible loos at school too' but that's no reason for things to stay the same".

There is no legal requirement about the standard of toilets at school beyond a certain ratio of lavatories and wash basins to pupils.

Employers, however, have a legal obligation to provide clean toilets with privacy plus sinks with hot and cold running water.

golden child · 04.29.2007, 02:35 AM

keeping bathrooms clean, that is a great idea. in "the pit" at my school (the downstairs where all the freshman lockers are) the bathroom stalls doors are gone and broken. there is no mirror because it was smashed and it is dirty as hell.

Toilet & Bowels · 04.29.2007, 03:53 AM

this is absurd if they thinking fixing the toilets is going to solve the problems in english schools.

bring back the cane.

ALIEN ANAL · 04.29.2007, 04:01 AM

just abandon this whole school idea.

Toilet & Bowels · 04.29.2007, 04:08 AM

children no longer know their place, they need to be treated like the animals that they are.

jon boy · 04.29.2007, 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toilet & Bowels

children no longer know their place, they need to be treated like the animals that they are.

there are websites for that kind of thing.

04.29.2007, 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toilet & Bowels

children no longer know their place, they need to be treated like the animals that they are.

The adults who concieve these monstrousities are just as responsable.

MellySingsDoom · 04.29.2007, 09:26 AM

Really, the film "Salo" show us all how this whole toilet issue could be sorted out....

Washing Machine · 04.29.2007, 09:26 AM

Hell Keep all kids under the age of 16 in nappies (American Translation: dipers) That'll solve the problem of behavour and toilets..

Toilet & Bowels · 04.29.2007, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by jon boy

there are websites for that kind of thing.

check out these, i witnesed both:

http://www.hackneygazette.co.uk/content/hackney/gazette/news/story.aspx?brand=HKYGOnline&category=news&tBrand=n orthlondon24&tCategory=newshkyg&itemid=WeED20%20Ap r%202007%2011%3A08%3A34%3A067

http://www.hackneygazette.co.uk/content/hackney/gazette/news/story.aspx?brand=HKYGOnline&category=news&tBrand=n orthlondon24&tCategory=newshkyg&itemid=WeED20%20Ap r%202007%2011%3A30%3A31%3A233

i didn't actually see the stabbing i just saw the guy lying in a huge pool of blood, and in the second story i was sitting about 50 yards away from the shooting.

jon boy · 04.29.2007, 09:51 AM

jeez these kids today. back in my day it was just vandalism but these kids!

i saw a guy cut his own fingers nearly off in hollywood last year. right infornt of starbucks.

Toilet & Bowels · 04.29.2007, 09:55 AM

did he do it on purpose?

jon boy · 04.29.2007, 10:02 AM

he did.

Toilet & Bowels · 04.29.2007, 10:04 AM

like that bloke who chopped off his nob the other day?

jon boy · 04.29.2007, 10:08 AM

i'd rather a finger than the old man.

04.29.2007, 01:49 AM	#1
SynthethicalY invito al cielo Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 7,408	http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/e...on/6591105.stm The recommendations for new secondary schools also include putting toilet blocks close to staffrooms or offices for subtle supervision. If the ideas are taken up, urinals would be a thing of the past and privacy would be protected. Campaigners say crumbling facilities damage pupils' health and well-being. They say school toilets are recognised as being a trouble-spot for bullying, with some children avoiding going, possibly leading to continence problems. I don't want my head dunked down the toilet Pupil's complaint to campaign group The recommendations cover schools being rebuilt or refurbished under the government's £45bn Building Schools for the Future programme. Tim Byles, chief executive of the Partnerships for Schools, the agency responsible for the programme, said behaviour could be improved by good design. "Toilets are recognised as a hotspot for bullies to threaten and intimidate others," he said. "This is clearly unacceptable. The new standard specifications for toilets in schools means that cramped, dirty and vandalised toilets can become a thing of the past. RECOMMENDATIONS Unisex Central sink troughs Locking toilets No urinals Locking doors Glass walls Must be kept clean "Toilets in BSF schools will no longer provide bullies with places that lend themselves all too readily to anti-social behaviour." It is suggested that making toilets unisex would discourage pupils from congregating in the area. The guidelines received a warm welcome from the charity Education and Resources for Improving Childhood Continence (Eric). The charity's Bog Standard website - which campaigns for better facilities - includes complaints from many children about dirty, threatening environments. Central wash basins cut flooding risk, experts say JJ, aged 13, from Swansea, wrote: "I dont like using my toilets. There are always people in there smoking, and they are bullies. I don't want my head dunked down the toilet. When there aren't bullies or smoking in there, they smell, they are dirty, and have no locks". Jessca, aged 13, from Warwickshire, wrote: "The toilets at my school are terrible they smell there are no seats and no loo roll and no locks on the doors and even no chains because the school cannot be bothered to fix them they have been fixed before but not in the last 6 months and the loo's have not been open for over 4 months ther is over 1300 students at our school and 1 toilet open". Simon, 13, from South Yorkshire said: "My school toilets stink and are never properly cleaned. People block up the sinks with toilet paper and because the taps are broken they stay on and flood the toilets. "They also wet toilet paper and throw it everywhere. The locks on the doors don't work and people can open them from the outside so there is no privacy". Legal requirement Beverley Leeson from Eric said: "We are very glad that the guidelines have been produced. "It's a huge issue for pupils and if they are holding on because they don't want to use the toilets or because they aren't allowed to go, it can cause health and well-being problems. "Some adults think it's not a big issue and say 'we always had terrible loos at school too' but that's no reason for things to stay the same". There is no legal requirement about the standard of toilets at school beyond a certain ratio of lavatories and wash basins to pupils. Employers, however, have a legal obligation to provide clean toilets with privacy plus sinks with hot and cold running water.
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04.29.2007, 02:35 AM	#2
golden child expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,672	keeping bathrooms clean, that is a great idea. in "the pit" at my school (the downstairs where all the freshman lockers are) the bathroom stalls doors are gone and broken. there is no mirror because it was smashed and it is dirty as hell. __________________ blind
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Toilet & Bowels invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northern Europe Posts: 12,264	this is absurd if they thinking fixing the toilets is going to solve the problems in english schools. bring back the cane.
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04.29.2007, 04:08 AM	#5
Toilet & Bowels invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northern Europe Posts: 12,264	children no longer know their place, they need to be treated like the animals that they are.
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Washing Machine expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Cardiff, Spiderland Posts: 1,465	Hell Keep all kids under the age of 16 in nappies (American Translation: dipers) That'll solve the problem of behavour and toilets.. __________________ ....Of Course its some kinda cosmic payback for being too ironic!
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jon boy invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: psycho battery Posts: 12,161	jeez these kids today. back in my day it was just vandalism but these kids! i saw a guy cut his own fingers nearly off in hollywood last year. right infornt of starbucks. __________________ Sarcasm[A] is stating the opposite of an intended meaning especially in order to sneeringly, slyly, jest or mock a person, situation or thing \|@ <------- Euphoric brain cell just moments before expiration V _ \ / _ PING <-------- moments later / \ http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ljhxq...isruo1_500.gif
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Toilet & Bowels invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northern Europe Posts: 12,264	like that bloke who chopped off his nob the other day?
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jon boy invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: psycho battery Posts: 12,161	i'd rather a finger than the old man. __________________ Sarcasm[A] is stating the opposite of an intended meaning especially in order to sneeringly, slyly, jest or mock a person, situation or thing \|@ <------- Euphoric brain cell just moments before expiration V _ \ / _ PING <-------- moments later / \ http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ljhxq...isruo1_500.gif
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