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Old 09.29.2008, 03:29 AM   #21
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But if you don't smoke you're a square and a pussy.

You have to weigh out the pros and cons.

You got rep!

I smoke cigs and enjoy it. However, I could do with cutting down a bit at the moment (for financial reasons more than everything).
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Old 09.29.2008, 04:50 AM   #22
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Everybody knows smoking is dumb.

And everybody knows that young people will always think it's cool (same as drinking), which is why they talk about it so much.

I just take smug satisfaction in the knowledge that 2 in 3 smokers will die a slow, lingering, painful death. Ho hum.
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Old 09.29.2008, 04:59 AM   #23
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*cough cough smoker's cough*

Reminds me of the Conor Hamill sketch on "The Day Today" - "Do I look cool? Well do I? DO I?"
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Old 09.29.2008, 05:19 AM   #24
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i only smoke when I drink. which is pretty often, eh.
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Old 09.29.2008, 11:01 AM   #25
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fuck all that "corporate" bullshit. itd be the same thing if heroin was legal it would to be "corporate slavery self hate bullshit". its your own choice. i love nicotine, ive quite sucesffuly before, but found i would rather live with a nasty chest cold and poor breathing skills because i simply lie tobacco. people these days spend way to much time perfecting thier bodies to live long lives. well, what i learned the other night is perfect body or not, were all gonna die, quicly and without reason. so, you might as well do what you enjoy doing while youre here.

some deaths are more prolonged and painful than you expect. deteriorating health is not as romantic as it seems, especially when you have to wear a voice box.

my grandmother's emphisema was no picnic. she drowned from the inside. the whole thing took many months which i'm sure were terrifying for her.

in other words, you're fucking dreaming, son. and yeah it's all a crapshoot, but you're diminishing your odds at a fast rate.

including your capacity to have fun.
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Old 09.29.2008, 11:07 AM   #26
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Old 09.29.2008, 11:26 AM   #27
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fuck all that "corporate" bullshit. itd be the same thing if heroin was legal it would to be "corporate slavery self hate bullshit". its your own choice. i love nicotine, ive quite sucesffuly before, but found i would rather live with a nasty chest cold and poor breathing skills because i simply lie tobacco. people these days spend way to much time perfecting thier bodies to live long lives. well, what i learned the other night is perfect body or not, were all gonna die, quicly and without reason. so, you might as well do what you enjoy doing while youre here.

Okay, you're talking about two different things here, I guess in some attempt to justify what you're doing.

Spending way too much time to perfect your body is one thing. Taking common sense precautions so you can enjoy life not merely for as long as you can but also as fully as you can is quite another. How enjoyable is life at 40 gonna be if you have heart and lung diseases, you can't walk a block without becoming short of breath, and you're constantly craving that next cigarette?
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Old 09.29.2008, 11:40 AM   #28
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How enjoyable is life at 40 gonna be if you have heart and lung diseases, you can't walk a block without becoming short of breath, and you're constantly craving that next cigarette?

oh no, he's not going to reach 30-- he's dying at 29 you see. or so he thinks anyway.
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Old 09.29.2008, 11:44 AM   #29
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well, I guess if you've only got 12 months or less to live, that's a whole other case.

Jesus, kids.
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Old 09.29.2008, 11:47 AM   #31
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You'll find a lot of things are better. Your taste buds will wake back up, for one thing.
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Old 09.29.2008, 07:02 PM   #33
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fuck all that "corporate" bullshit. itd be the same thing if heroin was legal it would to be "corporate slavery self hate bullshit". its your own choice. i love nicotine, ive quite sucesffuly before, but found i would rather live with a nasty chest cold and poor breathing skills because i simply lie tobacco. people these days spend way to much time perfecting thier bodies to live long lives. well, what i learned the other night is perfect body or not, were all gonna die, quicly and without reason. so, you might as well do what you enjoy doing while youre here.

i would have probably said this if someone else had posted the thread and i hadnt quit yet.
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Old 09.29.2008, 07:19 PM   #34
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i guess it isnt really POSSIBLE for someone who is still at the "this is all good" stage of smoking to understand the desire they have in themselves to do it as ever possibly a bad thing. their brains are giving them a little dopamine hit everytime they smoke. it is new, novel, feels good.

eventually it will fuck them over.it is inevitable if you smoke.
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Old 09.29.2008, 07:21 PM   #35
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Old 09.29.2008, 07:45 PM   #36
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i still haven't smoked a cigarette (or took a drag off of one) in my 26 and counting years of life. i never plan on smoking either. almost all of my friends smoke though. i'm used to it, but i just hate it if i start to smell like smoke. another reason i like living in nyc opposed to florida is that there's no smoking in bars. i hated that shit.
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Old 09.29.2008, 08:13 PM   #37
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i guess it isnt really POSSIBLE for someone who is still at the "this is all good" stage of smoking to understand the desire they have in themselves to do it as ever possibly a bad thing. their brains are giving them a little dopamine hit everytime they smoke. it is new, novel, feels good.

eventually it will fuck them over.it is inevitable if you smoke.

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Old 09.29.2008, 11:35 PM   #38
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Old 09.29.2008, 11:50 PM   #39
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