Freakonomics

noumenal · 01.31.2007, 01:37 PM

Has anybody read this book?

I'm reading it now and it's OK, a very fast read and fairly entertaining. I have a friend who's getting his PhD in Economics at MIT like Levitt did and he told me it was a decent book. That's why I'm reading it.

Anyway, I just finished a chapter about how legalized abortion is one of the greatest crime-lowering factors in American history. He says that it was the chief factor in the falling crime rates of the 90's (Roe vs Wade was in 1973, so the aborted criminals would be coming of age in the 90's). I find that interesting. What do you guys think?

(I still hate economics though. What a bunch of garbage.

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!@#$%! · 01.31.2007, 04:42 PM

hurray for (legalized) abortions :P

SynthethicalY · 01.31.2007, 04:45 PM

Abortion killed my twin brother.

Пятхъдесят Шест · 01.31.2007, 04:47 PM

No, I have not read it, but it has been sitting on a coworkers desk for months. Now that you've said it was good read, I may 'steal' it.

Reading an entire book about economics doesn't sound like a barrel of fun, but I may take your word for it.

!@#$%! · 01.31.2007, 04:49 PM

im thinking (from the title, and cover) that the main subject is the famous "law of unintended consequences"

am i right in judging this book by its cover?

Пятхъдесят Шест · 01.31.2007, 04:51 PM

Eh? Explain?

!@#$%! · 01.31.2007, 04:59 PM

the law of unintended consequences? meaning that whenever you establish a social or economic policy there are always consequences that you didn't expect. that's a favorite argument of laissez-faire economists to basically-- do nothing.

well actually here is a better explanation than mine:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unintended_consequence

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ps-- ha ha ha! the wikipedia article mentions the abortion/crime thing. i knew it! oh i can gloat now & temporarily forget my deep sense of inadequacy by feeling im such a fucking clever little boy. ha!!

Пятхъдесят Шест · 01.31.2007, 05:05 PM

Right. Cause and (a surprise!) effect.

Well, I think shall read it.

schizophrenicroom · 01.31.2007, 05:10 PM

i was entertained, especially by the "perfect parent" chapter.

Glice · 01.31.2007, 05:25 PM

I don't think economics is boring, so I want someone to tell me that this is either: a) sociology, in which case I won't read it; b) deceptively advanced economic theory or c) just good, stop being a prick, you prick.

Пятхъдесят Шест · 01.31.2007, 05:31 PM

d) all of the above.

Maybe? Judging from some of the reviews I've read online anyway.

schizophrenicroom · 01.31.2007, 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glice

I don't think economics is boring, so I want someone to tell me that this is either: a) sociology, in which case I won't read it; b) deceptively advanced economic theory or c) just good, stop being a prick, you prick.

eh, c.

i'm the same, i like the topic.

noumenal · 01.31.2007, 09:47 PM

Glice, there is nothing advanced about it. There's no math or jargon or anything. It's light reading - the entertaining findings of a slightly unorthodox economist, that's it. There's a chapter about baby names called "A Roshanda by Any Other Name." That should give you an idea of what it's like. And I hear they've been using it as a textbook in some Econ intro classes as an antidote to reading graphs and memorizing terminology.

On a side note, my friend has done some work on internet gambling. Maybe he'll write another book that people can read on the train. Uh.

I like popular science books. It's fun to dip into areas very diffferent and unrelated to your own. Economics is generally something into which I'm not very interested in delving. Normally I read books on biology (evolution), linguistics, philosophy, and shit like that when I'm not studying music.

But there are a lot of people that have side interests in which they are experts. John Cage was an expert on mushrooms. Nabokov was an expert on butterflies and moths. Morton Feldman was an expert on Turkish rugs. Any other examples?

I should pick something. I choose Victorian doorknobs. Time to go to the library.

01.31.2007, 01:37 PM	#1
noumenal expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,855	Has anybody read this book? I'm reading it now and it's OK, a very fast read and fairly entertaining. I have a friend who's getting his PhD in Economics at MIT like Levitt did and he told me it was a decent book. That's why I'm reading it. Anyway, I just finished a chapter about how legalized abortion is one of the greatest crime-lowering factors in American history. He says that it was the chief factor in the falling crime rates of the 90's (Roe vs Wade was in 1973, so the aborted criminals would be coming of age in the 90's). I find that interesting. What do you guys think? (I still hate economics though. What a bunch of garbage.)
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01.31.2007, 04:42 PM	#2
!@#$%! invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: mars attacks Posts: 42,577	hurray for (legalized) abortions :P
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01.31.2007, 04:45 PM	#3
SynthethicalY invito al cielo Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 7,408	Abortion killed my twin brother.
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01.31.2007, 04:47 PM	#4
Пятхъдесят Шест invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Omaha, Nebraska, USA Posts: 3,063	No, I have not read it, but it has been sitting on a coworkers desk for months. Now that you've said it was good read, I may 'steal' it. Reading an entire book about economics doesn't sound like a barrel of fun, but I may take your word for it.
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01.31.2007, 04:49 PM	#5
!@#$%! invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: mars attacks Posts: 42,577	im thinking (from the title, and cover) that the main subject is the famous "law of unintended consequences" am i right in judging this book by its cover?
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01.31.2007, 04:51 PM	#6
Пятхъдесят Шест invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Omaha, Nebraska, USA Posts: 3,063	Eh? Explain?
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01.31.2007, 04:59 PM	#7
!@#$%! invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: mars attacks Posts: 42,577	the law of unintended consequences? meaning that whenever you establish a social or economic policy there are always consequences that you didn't expect. that's a favorite argument of laissez-faire economists to basically-- do nothing. well actually here is a better explanation than mine: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unintended_consequence -- ps-- ha ha ha! the wikipedia article mentions the abortion/crime thing. i knew it! oh i can gloat now & temporarily forget my deep sense of inadequacy by feeling im such a fucking clever little boy. ha!!
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01.31.2007, 05:05 PM	#8
Пятхъдесят Шест invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Omaha, Nebraska, USA Posts: 3,063	Right. Cause and (a surprise!) effect. Well, I think shall read it.
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01.31.2007, 05:10 PM	#9
schizophrenicroom invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: behind you Posts: 10,807	i was entertained, especially by the "perfect parent" chapter. __________________ fuck i'm frustrated, freaking out something fierce, would you help me? i'm hungry and i stuffer and i startle, i struggle and i stammer til i'm up to my ears in miserable quote unquote "art"
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01.31.2007, 05:31 PM	#11
Пятхъдесят Шест invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Omaha, Nebraska, USA Posts: 3,063	d) all of the above. Maybe? Judging from some of the reviews I've read online anyway.
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01.31.2007, 09:47 PM	#13
noumenal expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,855	Glice, there is nothing advanced about it. There's no math or jargon or anything. It's light reading - the entertaining findings of a slightly unorthodox economist, that's it. There's a chapter about baby names called "A Roshanda by Any Other Name." That should give you an idea of what it's like. And I hear they've been using it as a textbook in some Econ intro classes as an antidote to reading graphs and memorizing terminology. On a side note, my friend has done some work on internet gambling. Maybe he'll write another book that people can read on the train. Uh. I like popular science books. It's fun to dip into areas very diffferent and unrelated to your own. Economics is generally something into which I'm not very interested in delving. Normally I read books on biology (evolution), linguistics, philosophy, and shit like that when I'm not studying music. But there are a lot of people that have side interests in which they are experts. John Cage was an expert on mushrooms. Nabokov was an expert on butterflies and moths. Morton Feldman was an expert on Turkish rugs. Any other examples? I should pick something. I choose Victorian doorknobs. Time to go to the library.
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