EARLY SY vs. LATE SY

weltact · 06.02.2007, 02:14 AM

this really bugs me, every time i mention to someone i like sonic youth, it brings this kind of square conversation:
(ill be person A)

A "i really like sonic youth"
B "oh yeah, daydream nation is so good, sister as well"
A "well you know, im not really keen on early sonic youth, i prefer a thousand leaves, sonic nurse, NYC ghosts & flowers and their SY series.."
B "really? i havent heard any of those. are they good?"
A "well.. different, VERY different"
B "ok, ill check them out"

(it goes without saying, person B is never going to check them out, because for person B, sonic youth were a great noisy alternative rock band from the eighties, but sonic youth are not making music anymore, and they are simply irrelevant today)

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so if we divide SY career in
EARLY SY (up to 1990)
and
LATE SY (1998 onwards)
(intentionally leaving out period in the middle, to make this difference even more extreme)

i would really like to find out how many of you on this forum actually love SY for their late period, rather than the early days?

sonicl · 06.02.2007, 02:22 AM

I'm not fussed whether it's early or late, it's all genius to me.

weltact · 06.02.2007, 02:27 AM

of course it is, but lets choose...polls are fun

sonicl · 06.02.2007, 02:37 AM

Okay, I choose early, 'cos that's when I first heard them and I will always have affection for that era because it blew my mind.

weltact · 06.02.2007, 02:50 AM

see..that was easy

same analogy here i guess, ive first heard sonic nurse...and went crazy about it...

Trasher02 · 06.02.2007, 03:24 AM

I picked early, Rather ripped just ruins the late part for me.

toxic johnny · 06.02.2007, 04:41 AM

Well it has to be early for me too... I much prefer the recent side project stuff to late SY... although having said that I have a feeling that the next LP is gonna surprise and excite in unexpected ways...

Washing Machine · 06.02.2007, 05:27 AM

It's the early stuff for me. Bad Moon Rising, EVOL, Daydream Nation has stronger emotional connections in my mind. Dispite the fact that i'm 18 and didnt get into Sonic Youth until Sonic Nurse came out.

Thats not to say I don't absolutely love the new stuff. Murrey Street and Sonic Nurse are 2 of the best recordings in their catalog.

screamingskull · 06.02.2007, 05:31 AM

With me the conversation goes more like

A) I really love Sonic Youth
B) Who?

is washing machine early or late??? whats the cut of point for early and late is it like

1983-1995 early
1996-2007 late

??????

also i did a more specific thread on this subject here - http://www.sonicyouth.com/gossip/showthread.php?t=10646

king_buzzo · 06.02.2007, 06:03 AM

Early. I'd pick middle though.

_slavo_ · 06.02.2007, 06:09 AM

I'd say Washing Machine belongs to the 'late' era.

As for my vote, I go for early, just because of EVOL and Bad Moon Rising.

Washing Machine · 06.02.2007, 06:20 AM

Daydream Nation, well what more can be said about it. EVOL however is just one of those albums I hold so dear because its such a shining example of how good music can be. When I talk about EVOL or DNN I can't help but sound over the top. I guess thats why I voted Early.

screamingskull · 06.02.2007, 06:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Washing Machine

EVOL however is just one of those albums I hold so dear because its such a shining example of how good music can be.

"my violence is a dream, a real dream"

Washing Machine · 06.02.2007, 07:16 AM

"I left home for experience, Carved Suk for honesty on my chest"

Tom Violence is my favourite on EVOL. EVOL represents what America should be...youthful, anthamic, dreamy and iconic. Walk around your neighbourhood at 12:00am listening to the record on a shitty cassette it takes on a whole new life.

My friend and I drive up to the woods and the mountains at about 3-4 in the morning and just listen to EVOL. Its great driving music.

terminal pharmacy · 06.02.2007, 07:17 AM

love both for different reasons and cannot pick

weltact · 06.02.2007, 10:56 AM

someone asked about washing machine, i think that would be late SY, sound-wise...i think its much more similar to late albums than earlier ones

el duderino · 06.02.2007, 07:42 PM

whatever period Washing Machine and 1000 leaves belongs to is probably my favourite musically, but the Bad Moon Rising/Evol period sets by far the best mood

iskandertime · 06.03.2007, 10:00 PM

I like the "new" LPs just fine thank you, but I keep returning to the early stuff. EVOL was the first SY I heard, (well, the "Halloween" single really) and oh yes, I love the first EP for It's great production (Radio City strikes again.) Recent faves=Murry Street, NYC H & F, and of course, Rather Ripped.

king_buzzo · 06.04.2007, 06:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trasher02

I picked early, Rather ripped just ruins the late part for me.

Yeah. Agreed.

HECKLER SPRAY · 06.04.2007, 10:25 AM

I don't like to be in the majority, but I voted "Early" nevertheless.
Confusion is Sex ! Bad Moon Rising ! EVOL ! SISTER ! Daydream Nation !
Easy choice.

View Poll Results: EARLY SY vs. LATE SY
EARLY SY	33	73.33%
LATE SY	12	26.67%
Voters: 45. You may not vote on this poll

06.02.2007, 02:14 AM	#1
weltact empty page Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 6	this really bugs me, every time i mention to someone i like sonic youth, it brings this kind of square conversation: (ill be person A) A "i really like sonic youth" B "oh yeah, daydream nation is so good, sister as well" A "well you know, im not really keen on early sonic youth, i prefer a thousand leaves, sonic nurse, NYC ghosts & flowers and their SY series.." B "really? i havent heard any of those. are they good?" A "well.. different, VERY different" B "ok, ill check them out" (it goes without saying, person B is never going to check them out, because for person B, sonic youth were a great noisy alternative rock band from the eighties, but sonic youth are not making music anymore, and they are simply irrelevant today) ---- so if we divide SY career in EARLY SY (up to 1990) and LATE SY (1998 onwards) (intentionally leaving out period in the middle, to make this difference even more extreme) i would really like to find out how many of you on this forum actually love SY for their late period, rather than the early days?
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06.02.2007, 02:22 AM	#2
sonicl invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,527	I'm not fussed whether it's early or late, it's all genius to me.
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06.02.2007, 02:27 AM	#3
weltact empty page Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 6	of course it is, but lets choose...polls are fun
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06.02.2007, 02:37 AM	#4
sonicl invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,527	Okay, I choose early, 'cos that's when I first heard them and I will always have affection for that era because it blew my mind.
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06.02.2007, 02:50 AM	#5
weltact empty page Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 6	see..that was easy same analogy here i guess, ive first heard sonic nurse...and went crazy about it...
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06.02.2007, 03:24 AM	#6
Trasher02 invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 6,356	I picked early, Rather ripped just ruins the late part for me. __________________ 666
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06.02.2007, 04:41 AM	#7
toxic johnny expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: London Posts: 1,657	Well it has to be early for me too... I much prefer the recent side project stuff to late SY... although having said that I have a feeling that the next LP is gonna surprise and excite in unexpected ways... __________________ Built Toxic J Tough Optic Disc
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06.02.2007, 05:27 AM	#8
Washing Machine expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Cardiff, Spiderland Posts: 1,465	It's the early stuff for me. Bad Moon Rising, EVOL, Daydream Nation has stronger emotional connections in my mind. Dispite the fact that i'm 18 and didnt get into Sonic Youth until Sonic Nurse came out. Thats not to say I don't absolutely love the new stuff. Murrey Street and Sonic Nurse are 2 of the best recordings in their catalog. __________________ ....Of Course its some kinda cosmic payback for being too ironic!
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06.02.2007, 05:31 AM	#9
screamingskull invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: england Posts: 5,580	With me the conversation goes more like A) I really love Sonic Youth B) Who? is washing machine early or late??? whats the cut of point for early and late is it like 1983-1995 early 1996-2007 late ?????? also i did a more specific thread on this subject here - http://www.sonicyouth.com/gossip/showthread.php?t=10646
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06.02.2007, 06:03 AM	#10
king_buzzo invito al cielo Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 11,110	Early. I'd pick middle though.
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06.02.2007, 06:09 AM	#11
_slavo_ invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Ðîññèÿ Posts: 10,908	I'd say Washing Machine belongs to the 'late' era. As for my vote, I go for early, just because of EVOL and Bad Moon Rising. __________________ you're the boy that can enjoy invisibility
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06.02.2007, 06:20 AM	#12
Washing Machine expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Cardiff, Spiderland Posts: 1,465	Daydream Nation, well what more can be said about it. EVOL however is just one of those albums I hold so dear because its such a shining example of how good music can be. When I talk about EVOL or DNN I can't help but sound over the top. I guess thats why I voted Early. __________________ ....Of Course its some kinda cosmic payback for being too ironic!
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06.02.2007, 07:16 AM	#14
Washing Machine expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Cardiff, Spiderland Posts: 1,465	"I left home for experience, Carved Suk for honesty on my chest" Tom Violence is my favourite on EVOL. EVOL represents what America should be...youthful, anthamic, dreamy and iconic. Walk around your neighbourhood at 12:00am listening to the record on a shitty cassette it takes on a whole new life. My friend and I drive up to the woods and the mountains at about 3-4 in the morning and just listen to EVOL. Its great driving music. __________________ ....Of Course its some kinda cosmic payback for being too ironic!
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06.02.2007, 07:17 AM	#15
terminal pharmacy invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Australia Posts: 3,358	love both for different reasons and cannot pick
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06.02.2007, 10:56 AM	#16
weltact empty page Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 6	someone asked about washing machine, i think that would be late SY, sound-wise...i think its much more similar to late albums than earlier ones
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06.02.2007, 07:42 PM	#17
el duderino bad moon rising Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: NZ Posts: 120	whatever period Washing Machine and 1000 leaves belongs to is probably my favourite musically, but the Bad Moon Rising/Evol period sets by far the best mood
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06.03.2007, 10:00 PM	#18
iskandertime little trouble girl Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: portland, maine Posts: 41	I like the "new" LPs just fine thank you, but I keep returning to the early stuff. EVOL was the first SY I heard, (well, the "Halloween" single really) and oh yes, I love the first EP for It's great production (Radio City strikes again.) Recent faves=Murry Street, NYC H & F, and of course, Rather Ripped.
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06.04.2007, 10:25 AM	#20
HECKLER SPRAY invito al cielo Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Near Paris, France Posts: 3,762	I don't like to be in the majority, but I voted "Early" nevertheless. Confusion is Sex ! Bad Moon Rising ! EVOL ! SISTER ! Daydream Nation ! Easy choice. __________________
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